10-Gigabit Ethernet Standard Approved

[MONK]

Could not decide where to put this so I stuck it here in the end.....

From /.

A little birdie brings news that that 802.3ae standard for 10 Gigabit/second Ethernet has been approved. Everyone out there with Gigabit Ethernet - you are now officially obsolete. The new standard is fiber only, no more of that nasty copper stuff.

You can go to the IEE and have a look for your self!

[SmartMonkey]

Very Nice!
However I dont think that Gigabit is going to be obsolete just yet. There are an awful lot of people out there whose whole network infrastructure is copper based.

[KermitTheFrag]

another day, another standard, another IT budget eaten by something we wont need yet (this is switch -> desktop infrastructure, not poor-mans backbone stuff).

[bvark]

/me has deployed 10gigE already, of course ;)

Not really very surprising that it's out - we have had 10GB wan links (OC192/STM64) for over a year - the ethernet standard has dragged while they've discussed endless possible ways to do it (about 30 the last time I looked :(

10GE is only interesting at present to ISPs and huge enterprises, but they said that about 100Mbit 5 years ago :)

[Cabe]

A hard disk should saturate the network with data, not the other way around :)

[wishy]

FFS cabe, if you took the fastest ram you could get your hands on, put no limits like PCI bus in the way and used it as a cache, you still couldn't hit 10 gig. (133 Mhz DDR ram = 2700 mbit / second, even in something like nforce with two banks, you still couldn't hit that speed)

[LlamaMan]

Surely the bandwidth is shared between whoever sends data, lots of comps transmitting data would probably manage to use that much.

(sorry for crummy wording there...lol)

[bvark]

Indeed - LlamaMan, no manufacturer is talking about 10GE to the desktop or the server being useful at all for quite some time, but backbone links have traditionally been 10-100 times the size of the desktop connection!

[LlamaMan]

Be nice if we did have memory/HDs fast enough to use all of a 10GB connection tho :)

[Elbonio]

so when we getting 10Gbit @ the i events then?

:D :D

[bvark]

Thursday the 27th of Never, Elbonio :)

[Elbonio]

lol damnit ;)

i dunno... few years down the line... like i67 or something

5 years ago they said you couldnt have 1Ghz without a fridge in your case...

[Cabe]

Wishy you tit, read my post again.

[Fembot]

**coughs** slashdot

[wishy]

Originally posted by Cabe
Wishy you tit, read my post again.

I did, i were just making the point the memory couldn't saturate the network either

[MONK]

Just wait till PCI-x, 3gio or whatever they think of next comes out then you we won't know what to do with the bandwidth ;)
but in saying that if they made a network card for an AGP slot then there would be enough bandwidth ;)

[LlamaMan]

Would ur PCI bus (or AGP or whatever, even ISA is ur a sadist) even be able to cope with the traffic from a 10 Gigabit NIC?

[bvark]

No, regular PCI tops out about 600Mbits I believe, and AGP is 3.2GB at 4x (could be wrong).

10Gbit in PC class hardware is all wrong for so many reasons it's going to be a long time - there's also the MTU issue (calculating the CRC for so many packets) to consider and various others.

[MONK]

Plus the fact although it might be possible for a AGP slot to do it you would have trouble on your HD end as that would not be running at 1.25G/s

[KermitTheFrag]

... and the fact you'd run out of things to transfer quite quickly...

[Cabe]

I dunno, use TPP to download http://www.*.com

[LlamaMan]

the run out of disk space and curse the monkeys (or something)

[Daxaius]

The Reg (http://www.theregister.co.uk/) have done a comprehensive article (http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/61/25728.html) on future of buses and it seams to boil down to an AMD (HyperTransport) vs Intel (PCI-Express) for replacements (certainly in the server market) to the current 32/64bit PCI bus.

As ever though, our wait is not for a fast enough bus, but rather large enough medium to store all our crap. 120GB disks haven't been around for all that long and are in the ~£150 region. These days, 100GB doesn't go far when you start racking up games, porn, mp3s and films. Hard disks simply aren't big enough.