IBM Drives

[Bowser]

The Click of Death!

I found this to be a very intresting read.

http://www.tweaktown.com/document.php?dType=article&dId=180

For those who have had problems with these drives (Kermit being one) to hopefully shed some light on why they die so often. I have been told by many sorces that its the 75GXP which has the most problems but I don't fancy taking my chances. £130 a time hits the bank quite hard at the end of the month.
I have two 60GXP IBM drives in my machine and by total chance I had to mod my case to fit them in so they are quite we tucked away behind a nice big fan. So hopefully I don't have much to worry about.
The picture below is of my very messy case showing by complete chance how my mod helped me to keep my system and hard drives a little cooler. I had to mod my old case cause I don't have enough room in my bedroom to fit a server case in :( but 4 screws and an old 3.5" bay from Pukkas old case has sorted that, and I still have room for more :D

[r3plica]

thats good that is, realy it is

I just baught another pc t'other day and i decided to put in n'other hdd
so that be 2 cd drives
1 zip
2 hdd's

to my dismay my pc kept crashing, time and time again I reinstalled windows (fdisk then format :D)
wasn't untill two weeks later i found that me hdd's were over heating - so that leaves me with a redundant hdd =[

help!

[Triprotic-Acid]

Originally posted by r3plica
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to my dismay my pc kept crashing, time and time again I reinstalled windows (fdisk then format :D)
wasn't untill two weeks later i found that me hdd's were over heating - so that leaves me with a redundant hdd =[

help! [/B]


http://www.mikhailtech.com/articles/cooling/cooldrive/

i got my 2 HDD in those, and it makes a differance. £15 a peice. as long as u have the spare bays for them :D

[Hitori]

I found this to be a very intresting read.

http://www.tweaktown.com/document.p...article&dId=180


yes, thats what i said earlier this week in 'ibm bitchy time' post :)

considering ive recently got a cheftec dragon, ive given my hdd proper cooling:

in a group of 3 hdd slots, hdd is in middle one, with fan behind blowing directly onto it. any spare air goes on to help cool my 1ghz athlon w/ zalman flower cooler (sorry bout blaggage - cooler is too good) so thats ok :P

and because both fans (hdd, cpu) r both 92mm fans, my system stays quiet :P

cork

[KermitTheFrag]

Ok for the interested, I'm going to write this in big letters so I can hammer this into peoples thick heads:-

THE DRIVES BLOW UP EVEN WITHIN THERMAL SPEC. COOLING WILL NOT HELP. THE CAUSE IS THE GMR HEADS WHICH STILL DIE EVEN IF YOU COOL THE DRIVES PROPERLY. ALSO I NEED SILENT DRIVES, SO ADDITIONAL COOLING ISNT ACCEPTABLE.

That is all. Please get a clue.

[MONK]

True.

[Bowser]

Originally posted by KermitTheFrag
ALSO I NEED SILENT DRIVES, SO ADDITIONAL COOLING ISNT ACCEPTABLE.[/SIZE]

You will also notice on my case picture that the case has foam all round it. It cost me about a fiver to put this round my case and now i can't hear the hard drives or cd-roms spinning inside. But i can hear the air flow from my fans. A quick trip to your recommended quitepc.com should sort them problems out in a jiffy.

BTW Good recommendation Kerm, cheers. I got a silent drive to go on my 486 running my firewall that is always on in my bedroom to make it 100% quite now cause the psu fan came out and all I clould hear in the end was the hdd. The outer case is always off to prevent over heating of the psu before anyone askes. Do you have the quite 300w psu from the site in your comp, does it make a massive diff to noise?

[Porkie]

I am really beginning to regret buying two of the 60Gxp models. I havent had a problem so far, but i am almost always paranoid now. Even though i have two fans on the front of the case blowing air on the drives i am now dreading that they will just die anyway.

Still, we live and learn dont we, wish i had sodding well listended to a mate that said the IBMs were crap, problem was in most magazines i read they sang the praises of these drives, with no mention anywhere of all these failures.

Doubt i will be buying IBM again after all this.

[Bowser]

They do have a 3 year warrenty so I'm noy worried at all

[Porkie]

Hmm, better make sure i still have my reciept then.

[KermitTheFrag]

Originally posted by Bowser
You will also notice on my case picture that the case has foam all round it. It cost me about a fiver to put this round my case and now i can't hear the hard drives or cd-roms spinning inside. But i can hear the air flow from my fans. A quick trip to your recommended quitepc.com should sort them problems out in a jiffy.
This has to fit in a 19" rack. It's going to have self advesive noise dampening on the inside and rubber mounted drive cages. When I say silent, I mean hearing it at all is too much.


BTW Good recommendation Kerm, cheers. I got a silent drive to go on my 486 running my firewall that is always on in my bedroom to make it 100% quite now cause the psu fan came out and all I clould hear in the end was the hdd. The outer case is always off to prevent over heating of the psu before anyone askes. Do you have the quite 300w psu from the site in your comp, does it make a massive diff to noise?

I have one on order. I will tell you if its any good.

btw I'm currently using a 430W enermax PSU. Its well underloaded so the fans hardly ever actually spin up!

As for 60GXP I'm going with them (the smallest size, hence least platters) in silentdrive cased pairs with hardware RAID1. That will do the job, and I know for a fact that the failure rate is lower.

[Porkie]

Yeah, i have an Enermax as well, and the Fan is usually only at ~1800 Rpm, though sometimes it goes to ~2200.