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KermitTheFrag

2nd February 2002, 01:04

Same as D2M.

I'm not patriotic. I hate this **** hole of a country to be honest. Politics and press over common sense.

The government have schemes to take money from us, but what do they do? Bomb the crap out of countries with our money, without our vote while our schools suffer. Sometimes we need to keep our nose out of world affairs (unlike the yanks) or we'll end up with another September 11th except here.

Screw them. And shoot the queen. Shes totally worthless and a relic of our fallen empire - although shes a good tourist attraction.

I support nothing in this country. If we go to war, I'm not fighting.

Triprotic-Acid

2nd February 2002, 09:38

Originally posted by D2M
i'd die for my own beliefs, I'm not really sure if the country in its current state is worth saving! :p:

sounds about right, this contry is becoming a hole......

Cheez

2nd February 2002, 21:52

[edit that was far to opinionated against the labour party to be posted here. soz :)]

Avatar261

3rd February 2002, 00:08

I support nothing in this country. If we go to war, I'm not fighting.

That casue your scared?

I would die for Queen and Country.

It dosnt matter what state the country is in is all about patriotism and i love my country and everything it stands for. Would you rather be an ally with Afghanistan or America? Rest my case

The Queen is and forever shall be an institution and the Monarchy is good for this country and perhaps the world.

IF you dont like the country then leave.

Dont bad mouth the UK.

Malt

3rd February 2002, 03:52

Since i am currently sponsored by the Royal Artillery, and am being recruited as an Officer into the British Army. I would, will, and would be happy to die for my country. There is no nobler way to die.

I dont care what other people think, u either lead a usefull and constructive life, not neccessarily in the army, but any way in which u work, and make something outa ur life. Or u dont give a flying f**k about anyone else and neglect ur duty as a British citizen. people like that are more of a waste than refugess or asylum seekers. At least they get jobs.

There is this stigma that because someone was born here, they should automatically have rights. This is wrong, they should be earned.

I know what i would rather be.

Malt

3rd February 2002, 03:55

Originally posted by KermitTheFrag

And shoot the queen. Shes totally worthless and a relic of our fallen empire - although shes a good tourist attraction.

I support nothing in this country. If we go to war, I'm not fighting.

You sir, are nothing but a pig and a scoundrel. Respect your country's heritage, without it u are nothing.

Dwarf_Pr0n

3rd February 2002, 10:19

I'd die for country but not for royalty.
I mean they aren't even English, they are German/French everything but English.

D2M

3rd February 2002, 10:33

Originally posted by KermitTheFrag
Screw them. And shoot the queen. Shes totally worthless and a relic of our fallen empire - although shes a good tourist attraction.

I totally agree. The Queen does nothing for us. She takes a LOT of money, and just sits on her posh arse all day. Occasionally she may go on a visit and rub noses with soem f*ckwit from another country but she never does anything important to help us. And her speeches omfg stfu u stupid old b1tch!

Some people really need to stop being lemmings and accepting all the decisions that are made around them. Stand up for what you believe in and not what other people tell you to believe. After all it is your country that is suffering!

Dwarf_Pr0n

3rd February 2002, 11:16

She does help us get business.
If some country is offering some kind of job and we want it the Queen gets sent to meet the head of that country to try and obtain the contract for us.
I suppose you have to ask would we really want Tony Blair as the President instead of a Monarchy???

Dwarf_Pr0n

3rd February 2002, 11:19

Originally posted by KermitTheFrag
I'm not patriotic. I hate this **** hole of a country to be honest. Politics and press over common sense.

Screw them. And shoot the queen. Shes totally worthless and a relic of our fallen empire - although shes a good tourist attraction.

I'd rather live here than any other country. At least we have better anti gun laws OK so we accept immigrants who just rip us off and steal all our stuff and THEY should all be shot. And hey Yank doesn't sound like W4NK for no reason.
As for shooting the queen that's treason and you can be hung for treason (the only thing that still has a death penalty in this country)

D2M

3rd February 2002, 11:23

hang me then. yes i agree our gun laws are better, but there is no need for a queen!

And machine gun nests are required at every port to get rid of the b*stard immigrants! I'll happily man one of those!

Dwarf_Pr0n

3rd February 2002, 11:25

They should let immigrants in France come through the tunnel then block it off both ends and gas them all.

Yeah I don't think there is a need for a Queen either but I do think England as a country is good. ******** to Europe and joining the Euro. It will just mess up our economy and recession will hit everyone.

D2M

3rd February 2002, 11:28

I agree. We need to stay independent. I mean look at all the Europeans. TBH they are all a bunch of knobs anyway! Most of them smell and they just moan all the time. But Holland has better drug laws! Perhaps we could attach amsterdam to the UK?? :D

Dwarf_Pr0n

3rd February 2002, 11:30

Yeah cut Amsterday out and put it where Ireland is then put Ireland somewhere else like the middle of the Atlantic :)

D2M

3rd February 2002, 11:34

we could attach a fuse to ireland, float it round to france and BOOOOOOM no more refugee knobbers! :D

Dwarf_Pr0n

3rd February 2002, 11:36

:D :D :D :D :D :D
D2M you are my best m8 now.
You think the way I do.

piddle spank

3rd February 2002, 12:50

personaly i think the way the country is being run should be changed.
and as for the queen standing for our history their is a lot of our history that i would like to forget.

Nothing will change untill their is to be a political gain from it, thats what is inherently wrong with our system of government

D2M

3rd February 2002, 14:30

Originally posted by Dwarf_Pr0n
D2M you are my best m8 now.

YAY! I have a friend :D !!

And piddle spank we need to overthrow the government asap! :p:

Dwarf_Pr0n

4th February 2002, 09:03

La resistance

Oh wait, no I don't wanna be French. Scrap that first line...

Lets do it boyz. We can take over the country and Wizzo can be our glorious leader. As long as he introduces super fast (fibre optic) internet connections across the country :D

TelexStar

4th February 2002, 09:46

I'm not a Royalist - I do think charlie is an uber cool dude tho :D

But i would fight for our country! Not because i like politics or the labour party or anything like that but because i feel i owe it to the people that have fought before me.

Its very likely that if people in the 1st and 2nd World War had the same opinion as some of you we could well by under the 3rd reich by now.

D2M

4th February 2002, 09:54

Yes but when they fought the country was a better place. There was a much smaller inflow of immigrants and they didn't have an idiot who looks like the F.A. Cup trying to brainwash them from the House of Commons!! :p:

I do understand what you mean though, and it is a scary thought to think that we could all be speaking German and have to look at pictures of the pr1ck, Hitler. Ewww! :(

Angelus

4th February 2002, 09:58

Yeah we probably would. But nowadays the royals are just a waste of space, they are using alot of our tax payers money to live, they send their children to these posh schools and universities, you think they pay for them? no its the people that pay taxes that send them to these schools.

In short the royals should be removed from this country, they are a relic of forgotten times, and not all of those times were pleasant ones, we should catch up with modern times monarchies have no place in the modern world.

D2M

4th February 2002, 09:59

And nor does Tony Blair or brussel sprouts!

TelexStar

4th February 2002, 10:03

the thing is the Royal Family bring in soooo much revenue for the country!!! people visit the UK for the royal family! did u really think they came for the weather?

They'll never get rid of the Royals

D2M

4th February 2002, 10:09

wanna bet? :p:

/me loads RPG

KermitTheFrag

4th February 2002, 10:22

I'll give a background why I dont like this country and perhaps you'll see what I mean, and why I have no respect:-

1/ Someone I know is dying of cancer. Shes outlived her expectation so far. She cannot afford the drugs that could in fact have saved her life. Shes been ****ed over by the system that should have protected her. The NHS will not fund this but will spend millions funding crackheads in rehab who will just get hooked on it again (having known a couple, they are a wasted cause). She is one of my closest friends - if she dies think why?

2/ We are at one with the US, politically speaking. The US is pretty much everything in this world I stand against. Their culture, their ways. They spend so much protecting their citizens, monitoring them and controlling them, yet cant stop people from having so much hatred incited against themselves that they'll take it on, walk into schools and go on a killing spree (people "arent just ****ed up" - they are made this way by something). Its getting to be like that over here. Also this "sue everyone" culture is starting to catch up here. People sue people for falling over because they themselves are ****ing morons.

3/ the queen and the concept of the monarch is an outdated concept. She represents nothing but a relic of the british empire which (despite what some patriotic people think), is no more. Its time that this corrupt system of monarchies is removed. She, herself has no real power, but shes still there and is a symbol of this power. Shes a media target - nothing more.

4/ I am not scared to die for a cause. Just I'm not dying for a bunch of worthless pe0ns who are so self involved as to sit on their asses trying to wipe their miserable lives away with TV and dreamings. People without a thought of their own. That sums up the general populous of this country. Unfortunately, for stating what I believe (which is as per usual different to everyone else), I am persecuted by the narrow minded people. Listen and comment, dont insult.

5/ I admit the refuge situation is bad, but looking after the natives of a country is priority. Where they are providing placements within jobs of immigrants, unemployment and poverty is rediculously high. Priorities are for political and media gain here, not for us native people.

6/ We are whats now known as a service nation. We provide services by majority. This will seriously screw us over in the future if we ever break any relationships with manufacturing nations where we've contracted labour out to because its cheaper. What do we do then eh? Well recession, massive unemployment etc. We're not self-sufficient enough.

7/ Everyone is into financial gain. The majority of this nation are greedy little children imho who wouldnt lift a finger for someone else apart from themselves. Those who arent get screwed over by those who are.

8/ If I could afford it I'd move out of this crappy country to switzerland :)

We're on a downward spiral. Can you deny it ?

They are my views. I hope you understand better than my previous post.

Culture

4th February 2002, 10:24

It would be interesting to see the balance sheet between what revenue the royals bring in through tourism and promotion of British industry abroad to the cost of "keeping them".
They also do make money from there estates and houses (and are then taxed on this income).
Not to detract too much from this topic but i believe (from the little information i have) that the imaginary balance sheet would either see them as in credit or not costing very much at all. Its all relative anyway, if they cost £150million a year to run the royal family then i am happy to pay the £1 or £2 to let them live the way they want and let so many people (other than myself) gain pleasure and pride from there presence.

In terms of dying for people and beliefs then its a very individual thing dependant on your outlook. I would not die for my country, in my (humble) opinion the state is no longer as powerful an icon as it was and there tends to be more loyalty to companies and communities than the state these days. Would i die for my beliefs? Equally no, i wouldn't renounce my beliefs but i am prepared to have them challenged and altered, which i regard as a continual process in everyone.

I can understand a soldiers point of view in dying for his (or her) country, you have to believe in what you are doing as you are putting your life on the line everyday and you have to believe that it is worth it (without hesitation). I admire and respect these people for doing so, but i could not justify it to myself.

We as an entire human race have been brought to the eve of destruction because of beliefs and countries. The belief in your god and not mine cause two great towers to fall.
The belief of a few people that they should defend there country from all agressors and that there country was right took the two global superpowers close to nuclear armagedon (Cuba crisis).

The only thing that makes us the dominant spieces of this planet is our minds, walking in blind faith behind an ideal or belief is disregarding the one thing that sets you apart from all others.....

Big Giant Head

4th February 2002, 10:25

Personally I think stuff like the royals is something for the country to be proud of (hear me out on this one), not because they're great people etc, but because its proves as a country we have a history, which is more than America can say, where they knock down anything more than 10 years old to build a shopping mall

Its also the reason american tourists visit here, because we have buildings that are interesting and not just all glass and concrete and because the country actually has a proper history dating back thousands of years rather than a 300 year history (as far as they're concerned) the beginning of which involved them doing rather unpleasant things to the indigionous people of the country.

hmmmm that got rather rambling and off topic....

D2M

4th February 2002, 10:59

Originally posted by KermitTheFrag
1/ Someone I know is dying of cancer. Shes outlived her expectation so far. She cannot afford the drugs that could in fact have saved her life. Shes been ****ed over by the system that should have protected her. The NHS will not fund this but will spend millions funding crackheads in rehab who will just get hooked on it again (having known a couple, they are a wasted cause). She is one of my closest friends - if she dies think why?

I'm really sorry to hear that kermie m8. That made my eyes water... :( It is so sad to see things like that happen to good people! Wish her the best from me. :(

D2M

4th February 2002, 11:01

Originally posted by - Big Giant Head -
Its also the reason american tourists visit here, because we have buildings that are interesting and not just all glass and concrete and because the country actually has a proper history dating back thousands of years rather than a 300 year history (as far as they're concerned) the beginning of which involved them doing rather unpleasant things to the indigionous people of the country.

Could also be the fact that we are not 95% fatties. It's a valid point which I can understand but there are much more interesting things than a few old ugly people that look like shrivelled up peaches!

TelexStar

4th February 2002, 11:12

Originally posted by Culture
The only thing that makes us the dominant spieces of this planet is our minds, walking in blind faith behind an ideal or belief is disregarding the one thing that sets you apart from all others.....

this going a little off topic . . .

Can u explain what you mean by blind faith? Anyone who believes in something is not necessarily walking in blind faith are they? I would like to think that i am an intelligent person and able to believe in whatever i want - i don't understand how people can say that i, for example, am walking in blind faith? i know you were'nt directing that comment to specific people but i'm just interested to know what you think? :)

I need to be carefull how i say this because i remember a post like this not so long ago and i came out all wrong and seemed to mount my religious high horse :( but . . .

I can see how people would think that faith is a foolish thing, that it is just for lazy people who can't be bothered to train their minds in higher thinking. People say its just an easy excuse to explain away the things that can't be explained in their world/lives. Do you think that i haven't been challenged by what other people who don't share the same beleif as me, think? Believe me, i have. Its challenging me even now!

You right in saying that so many of the world tragic events have come about through peoples beliefs/faiths, and i don't blame people for the view they have on faith, you have no reason to believe otherwise because no-one has given you reason to believe. Maybe some people have followed their belief blindly, that does'nt mean that the belief is'nt valid.

I agree, dying for your country (or indeed for anything) is a very personal thing. Personally, i would'nt die for my country just for the sake of dying for my country but for dying for what i believe to be right.

Its very differcult because war has changed so much. WW2 was a classic was against evil, a mad man who had ideals that were typified that sense of the word that we understand to be 'wrong' or 'evil' It's easier to commit to that then to the war in afganistan because that is such a political thing! after all who is right? i surely don't know.

My belief in God has been with me before i was ever told he ever existed.

KermitTheFrag

4th February 2002, 11:16

can i just add one thing here ... we've had a million religious debates here ... lets keep this as a point but remain on topic ;)

Big Giant Head

4th February 2002, 11:19

Faith is a difficult thing to judge, personally I find it very difficult to believe in that which I can't see outright, but I respect those who can because they can do something I can't

However there is a distinction between faith which gives you strength and faith which in blind, its just where you choose to draw that distinction I guess ;)

D2M

4th February 2002, 11:23

I'm exactly the same as BGH. If I can't see something, it leads me to doubt its existence! But I won't knock anyone who has different beliefs to me, because they are entitled to that.

TelexStar

4th February 2002, 11:26

Originally posted by KermitTheFrag
can i just add one thing here ... we've had a million religious debates here ... lets keep this as a point but remain on topic ;)

i know, i did'nt want to change this to a religious rant :)

back to topic! :D

KermitTheFrag

4th February 2002, 11:30

hehe i wasnt having a go ... just this thread is very interesting in all aspects ;)

TelexStar

4th February 2002, 11:37

Originally posted by - Big Giant Head -
Personally I think stuff like the royals is something for the country to be proud of (hear me out on this one), not because they're great people etc, but because its proves as a country we have a history, which is more than America can say, where they knock down anything more than 10 years old to build a shopping mall

Its also the reason american tourists visit here, because we have buildings that are interesting and not just all glass and concrete and because the country actually has a proper history dating back thousands of years rather than a 300 year history (as far as they're concerned) the beginning of which involved them doing rather unpleasant things to the indigionous people of the country.

hmmmm that got rather rambling and off topic....

True, I mean what happens if we get rid of the Royals? we might start prenouncing all our words differently and stuff like 'aluminum' eeeeek :eek:

Culture

4th February 2002, 11:38

What do i mean by blind faith?

It does not relate specifically to religion, it is aimed at any belief system whether religious, idealistic or agnostic.

My point is that you came to your belief system (even if that means you don't believe anything) through rational thought.
Your belief is that there is a god, which is fine, i have no problem with that and neither should I, it is your belief and not mine...

But following that faith blindly and obeying the decrees of other people who are declaring themself (or are seen to be) the incarnation of your faith is where i dispair at humanity.
To stop using your intellect once in a belief system means that you stop evolving that belief and stop growing as a person.

all in my humble opinion of course (for what its worth)

KermitTheFrag

4th February 2002, 11:42

Originally posted by Culture
But following that faith blindly and obeying the decrees of other people who are declaring themself (or are seen to be) the incarnation of your faith is where i dispair at humanity.
To stop using your intellect once in a belief system means that you stop evolving that belief and stop growing as a person.

very valid point that summarises my beliefs too. I wish I could have put that into words :)

Hebe

4th February 2002, 11:49

Keep your english paws of Amsterdam...

TelexStar

4th February 2002, 11:52

Originally posted by Culture
But following that faith blindly and obeying the decrees of other people who are declaring themself (or are seen to be) the incarnation of your faith is where i dispair at humanity.
To stop using your intellect once in a belief system means that you stop evolving that belief and stop growing as a person.

all in my humble opinion of course (for what its worth)

I agree completely. Imho, faith is not just a lifestyle (as it is with many people who follow a belief/faith). Its something that should challenge you and force you to grow through your life.

D2M

4th February 2002, 20:43

Originally posted by Hebe
Keep your english paws of Amsterdam...

are you telling me and dwarf that you prefer ireland the land of boring short-ass people that speak funny to amsterdam?

NB// no offence intended to FH (cos he/she/it is small and boring)

Mingtea

5th February 2002, 02:30

well.. i would move if i had the money

japan methinks :)

its just cool

but seriously kerm makes some very valid points.

One thing. How could this country afford to run a train service it can bareley run a health service. it just annoys me when everyone asks for nationalisation of the rail.

KermitTheFrag

5th February 2002, 09:03

Exactly...

I'm fed up tbh. Its this stupid British attutude of sit back and accept, or hide the bare truths. This country so obviously needs major restructuring otherwise to put it bluntly we're ****ed :)

have a nice day. I'm not.

Dwarf_Pr0n

5th February 2002, 13:13

Originally posted by KermitTheFrag
Someone I know is dying of cancer. Shes outlived her expectation so far. She cannot afford the drugs that could in fact have saved her life. Shes been ****ed over by the system that should have protected her. The NHS will not fund this but will spend millions funding crackheads in rehab who will just get hooked on it again (having known a couple, they are a wasted cause). She is one of my closest friends - if she dies think why?

Wow you got that email too about this person being hard done by.
Sorry if I don't believe you but I have seen the same thing word for word in one of those spammy emails where if you forward it to 1000000000000000 people then some rich business man will pay for treatment.
There is a good note in this for everyone... GET MEDICAL INSURANCE and go private.

Hebe

5th February 2002, 13:15

[QUOTE]Originally posted by D2M
[B]

are you telling me and dwarf that you prefer ireland the land of boring short-ass people that speak funny to amsterdam?

?? I am Dutch, i may live in England, but leave Amsterdam where it is. i have no idea where you get Ireland from.

Dwarf_Pr0n

5th February 2002, 13:16

Originally posted by MiNgTeA
well.. i would move if i had the money

japan methinks :)

its just cool

but seriously kerm makes some very valid points.

One thing. How could this country afford to run a train service it can bareley run a health service. it just annoys me when everyone asks for nationalisation of the rail.

It would help if this country wasn't targetted by immigrants who "want a better life" and then come set up their own communities and live off benefits which could go to improving services.
You can't blame the country for the state of the rail services since it's a privately owned company and the government isn't in charge of getting it running properly.
Kick out all immigrants, get the unemployed working and get the country back to how it used to be. Now thats progress.

KermitTheFrag

5th February 2002, 13:23

Originally posted by Dwarf_Pr0n
Wow you got that email too about this person being hard done by. Sorry if I don't believe you but I have seen the same thing word for word in one of those spammy emails where if you forward it to 1000000000000000 people then some rich business man will pay for treatment.

Err no - this person I know, this person I see at least once a week, this is a person ive kinda watched being VERY ill for 9 months now. This person is one of my best friends. I suggest you take your head out of your ****ing ass and think before you post.

There is a good note in this for everyone... GET MEDICAL INSURANCE and go private.

Can you afford medical insurance if you are on £8k a year? Surviving is hard enough for most people. The NHS is a fallback which should protect people. After all its there, we pay for it anyway. Wheres our ****ing service?

D2M

7th February 2002, 11:57

Originally posted by Hebe
?? I am Dutch, i may live in England, but leave Amsterdam where it is. i have no idea where you get Ireland from.

If you have bothered to read the whole thread you would have seen that we are replacing Ireland with Amsterdam.

thx, gg, l8rz

alex

7th February 2002, 13:23

i would die for the monachy but not for the goverment, as for the country,yes if it means for the people...
remember goverments come and go !!!
But as for the goverment at the time NO!!!!!! they are all useless and cant organise a p***up in a brewery.

this country needs and demands a coalition goverment to get this great nation back on track and kick all the immigrants out.

from one ex-service soldier

shame on you, shame on you all.....

Dwarf_Pr0n

7th February 2002, 19:34

Originally posted by KermitTheFrag

Can you afford medical insurance if you are on £8k a year? Surviving is hard enough for most people. The NHS is a fallback which should protect people. After all its there, we pay for it anyway. Wheres our ****ing service?

I can afford medical insurance it's only something like £30 a month. Even out of £8k a year it's not that bad.
Yes I agree the NHS should be there when needed and the service has gone down hill since Labour got in but all MP's are as bad as eachother promising better medical care and never delivering.
I do think the NHS should have the right to refuse smoking releated cancer treatment to smokers since it's their own fault for smoking.
I'm sorry if you do know the person but you have to admit there are a lot of naff emails that kind of read like that.
I hope whoever it is does recover from treatment wherever they may get it.

KermitTheFrag

7th February 2002, 21:37

Originally posted by Dwarf_Pr0n
I can afford medical insurance it's only something like £30 a month. Even out of £8k a year it's not that bad.

Depends really - £360/year is a bit much to spend on anything really on that salary esp when tax is taken out of that too. Medical insurance is a luxury. You obviously dont have a clue what its like for about 1/3 of the population - perhaps you should try living on that. Survive, then think about luxuries.

Yes I agree the NHS should be there when needed and the service has gone down hill since Labour got in but all MP's are as bad as eachother promising better medical care and never delivering.

Very true. Then again a bunch of us stupid pe0ns voted them in. The monster raving looney party have more of a clue.

I do think the NHS should have the right to refuse smoking releated cancer treatment to smokers since it's their own fault for smoking.

Thats pretty much true in a logical sense ... then again it'll be your fault when you die of heart disease due to lack of exercise and eating McDonalds. Will you expect the NHS to care for you then?

I'm sorry if you do know the person but you have to admit there are a lot of naff emails that kind of read like that. I hope whoever it is does recover from treatment wherever they may get it.

Prolly not - they're probably going to die. NHS has already failed them.

D2M

7th February 2002, 21:51

Originally posted by KermitTheFrag
Thats pretty much true in a logical sense ... then again it'll be your fault when you die of heart disease due to lack of exercise and eating McDonalds. Will you expect the NHS to care for you then?

If you don't look after yourself properly then you should not be entitled to free health care. Simple as that! Again I agree with Kermit, perhaps I should just stick "I agree with the green one" in my sig? :D

Big Giant Head

7th February 2002, 22:31

as I recall smokers almost care for themselves due to the silly amounts of tax the government makes off cigarretes (£11 million a day or something stupid), pretty much pays for the amount of nhs stuff they take up

Can't look up the figures though and I may be wrong...

D2M

7th February 2002, 23:02

still doesn't stop them killing the people, and world around them does it?

Dwarf_Pr0n

8th February 2002, 08:26

I think there should be a law that non-smokers can shoot smokers in the leg and say There you go, thats what it's like for us when you smoke near us. You nearly kill us but not quite :D
Kermit I'm a Northerner we are basically the masters of "getting by" wages are crap, hardly any government funding. In my area (near Sheffield) the only funding we got to improve the area was applied for and given by the European government. Before that Rotherham (my home town) was the least invested in town and area in the country by our own government.
I think we should have voted in Monster Raving Loony Party or those ones that wanna keep Britain as it is and ******** to Europe and the immigrants :D

KermitTheFrag

8th February 2002, 08:51

Heh you wanna try London then :D

As for the monster raving looneys ... they should have voted Mandu in (a large ginger tomcat)... see attachment.

Oh and to quote screaming lord such, regarding british beef: "I’ve eaten it for years and look at me!"

Dwarf_Pr0n

8th February 2002, 12:59

Yeah vote in the cat.
The cat will rule us all :D

KermitTheFrag

8th February 2002, 14:02

D2M

8th February 2002, 21:16

National Whiskers Day! :D

Mouce

11th February 2002, 15:49

Originally posted by Dwarf_Pr0n

I'd rather live here than any other country. At least we have better anti gun laws OK so we accept immigrants who just rip us off and steal all our stuff and THEY should all be shot. And hey Yank doesn't sound like W4NK for no reason.
As for shooting the queen that's treason and you can be hung for treason (the only thing that still has a death penalty in this country)
HEY!
I'm an immigrant, I came over here when I was 10, fistly most ppl that come to the country work hard for a second chance in life, back in their 0wn country life was misarable, I was in school till 7pm in the evening, waiting for my mum to pick me up from her work, she didnt get much, and between us we managed ok, but she worked very hard to keep me, and I moved here with my dad for a new life. I got my chance, now I'm going back to russia for a visit next week, I havent seen my mum in 3 years, I've prolly experienced more problems and upsets than you'll ever see, just think before you speak, you'll begin to upset people. The only reason people ever complain about imigrants is because they didnt work hard at school and didnt get the qualifications, whereas imigrants go to college and get qualifications, we're prepared to work for our life, because we got a second chance, people get jealious of this, and I pity them for it.... bcos then this country becomes no better than the country they left. People should get along, not destroy each others lifes just because of jealiousy or rasism.... its not right, I hope you realise this...

Bowser

11th February 2002, 16:11

CHANGE its a big word for this Country because all the old farts running it don't like change. We should go over to the Euro for commercial reasons more then any, taxes will have to drop aswell with it. But no the reason we won;t change is because we are S*it scared and because the pound is ours and we don't want to CHANGE it. Get some fecking balls Blair and admit it. We need CHANGE or we will drown in our stuborn old ways. Look at the nhs, railways and schools they are going down already, how much longer before the rest follow.

Can anyone think of a day where the NHS wasn't in the news for some sort of balls up or scandle.

Mouce

11th February 2002, 19:31

no amount of funding will get the NHS sorted, it needs a good organising, not a blank check, also, we wont lose the pound, the single currency only means that ppl can shop in both, people are afraid that others will only use euros for convinience therefore canceling out the pound through nill or very little use...

Dwarf_Pr0n

12th February 2002, 09:01

Originally posted by Bowser
CHANGE its a big word for this Country because all the old farts running it don't like change. We should go over to the Euro for commercial reasons more then any, taxes will have to drop aswell with it. But no the reason we won;t change is because we are S*it scared and because the pound is ours and we don't want to CHANGE it. Get some fecking balls Blair and admit it. We need CHANGE or we will drown in our stuborn old ways. Look at the nhs, railways and schools they are going down already, how much longer before the rest follow.

Can anyone think of a day where the NHS wasn't in the news for some sort of balls up or scandle.

It's the commercial reasons that we AREN'T going over to the €uro. Taxes won't drop we would just have to pay more €'s for the stuff we get over here. We still have to pay for the NHS and all the other stuff we pay taxes for. They aren't just gonna disappear cos the currency changes.
So Mouce let me get this right... You are saying no one from the UK goes to college and gets qualifications?!?
The only reason people ever complain about imigrants is because they didnt work hard at school and didnt get the qualifications, whereas imigrants go to college and get qualifications
Now I don't know what down and outs you have been hanging around with but not only did I do A levels I did Uni and probably have more qualifications than you will ever have. Immigrants that are granted asylum are the decent ones it's the illegal ones that come here and all of a sudden say "I'm here now gimme benefits" that cause the problems. And you can't say it doesn't happen cos it does.

KermitTheFrag

12th February 2002, 09:45

Living in North London, there is a problem with "rogue" (not r0gue) immigrants. About 90% will do good things, 10% are a nasty faction of theives, muggers and general assholes...

KermitTheFrag

12th February 2002, 09:46

Originally posted by Dwarf_Pr0n
Now I don't know what down and outs you have been hanging around with but not only did I do A levels I did Uni and probably have more qualifications than you will ever have.

*handbags*

Chill dwarf_pr0n ... please ;)

D2M

15th February 2002, 17:01

And what about all the little w4nkers who burnt down their nice little "prison" this morning?? FFS can we please shoot them all, because it is way beyond a joke!

KermitTheFrag

15th February 2002, 18:34

I think the problem is that the frogs (french to be politically correct) just slam them on us.

D2M

15th February 2002, 18:38

Well, who's coming to France with me to sort it out?

Uruk-hai

15th February 2002, 19:05

I'll just go get my hammer and my SA80!

Eskimo

15th February 2002, 22:08

basically when it comes to the €uro we are all ****ed

France, has been cooking its books to make it look like its stable as well as all the other countries. Britain has been pumping money into europe to keep the euro up where it is...

Bollox bollox bollx

If we join the euro we are ****ed because it will bottom out and crash like all the other things the government tries,...

And if we dont join the €uro we are ****ed because when it does bottom out europe will blame us because we didnt join and give them our pound to stabalise it.

All in a word, BULL****

Tony just wants to be one of the club and join in with the euro, all the benifit the consumer (us) will see is being able to aviod changing curency...... WhOOOPIE FuKing DOO!

KermitTheFrag

15th February 2002, 22:53

Cant we just abduct tony, take him to a remote location, burn him with cigarrete ends, cut off his hair and make him eat it, then get 50 large fat dudes to bugger him till he's bleeding, then cut off his fingers and leave him to die through blood loss of the bloody stumps, then quater his body, sling it off a clif, crush his head and burn the remains ?

you may be able to tell that I dont like him :)

He's an overcontent euro-ass whore who gives a toss only about political gain and his own issues, rather than OURS.

Eskimo

17th February 2002, 13:07

t00k the dam words out of my mouth m8

karetaker

17th February 2002, 23:47

Regarding imigrants, we should follow how the Aussies have. To enter Australia you have to have a good sum of money behind you, qualifications and or experience of employement. With this it keeps the whole cycle of money inside the country with more coming in and less going out on poor imigrants who we have to feed, house, cloth and teach.

What annoys me even more is when they burn down the holding centers. How dare they come into this country to try and stay then burn down the building they are staying in! In Aussie they are kept in a simple area with a big fence along the perimeter with very very basic shelter. This hopefully deters them from crossing in the first place but is also cheaper to run. Ppl coming into this country should at least be able to speak english ffs.