ICANN approve selling of TLDs

[Boffykins]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7475986.stm
A complete overhaul of the way people navigate the internet has been given the go ahead in Paris.

The net's regulator Icann voted unanimously to relax the strict rules on so-called top level domain names, such as .com or .uk, can be relaxed.

The decision means that companies could turn brands into web addresses while individuals could use their names.

Some believe there could be at least 5,000 new top-level domains, but others say there could be demand for billions.

Peter Dengate Thrush, a member of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (Icann), said the decision was of "historic importance".

The new system should come in next year, but Icann admits there will be plenty of problems, and it may have to arbitrate between different organisations seeking the same name.
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[Hudson]

so glad i dont do domain administration anymore.

[RTO]

Thrush

[Cyphus]

pimpmylan.mpuk?

[ez64]

video.parishilton?

[Rippsy]

The end to the internet as we know it.

[Limi]

Idiots

[Afty]

About bleedin' time they did this - but they should also limit the number of domains per person/organisation.

I suspect new.net might have their noses put a bit out of joint by this though!

[Boffykins]

You're KIDDING right Afty? This is going to become an administrative nightmare!

[Lucifa]

Counting down to .blog

[BugAlugs]

all of this NU... for a small but reasonable fee

[Shazz]

Only a matter of time till theres a .Wizzo

[KingDaveRa]

Oh gawd :s

That is going to get REALLY confusing for users.

[Strych]

Thrush
Glad someone else beat me to the immaturity.

[Big Giant Head]

Bagsy .mygroin

[Ekim]

I don't think they are going to be selling them off cheap. I don't imagine we'll see too many new TLD's pop up when registration opens not every Tom, Dick and Harry is going to be able to purchase these.

[Portia]

+1 for .wizzo

[Elkeeed]

All this does is limit the total number of domains that will be effectively available because people will hog all the TLDs and never use the subdomains. What we really need are more fixed sensible TLDs with subdomains open for sale.

[swarfega]

Would be cool to have www.multiplay.owns!

[kandy]

I hope the commercial Internet just breaks and dies in a fire. It was a lot more interesting when IRC, Usenet and simple websites without "web 2.0" bull**** was the norm.

You could actually search for useful information as well instead of getting 300 pages of idiots blogs and shopping sites :p

[Shazz]

oh god, i just realised this means predat0r can finally own www.pedo.bear

[Idylla]

so wrong

[Brains-Lans]

In my opinion, Its BAD BAD BAD BAD, lots of new TLDs means more load on the root servers, this is silly++++

Totally destroys how DNS works at the moment.....

[Lucifa]

network admins fear change.

[bvark]

Interestingly Jon Postel was in favour of having a flatter namespace (albiet one with less trademark meaning inherent in the domains). If he hadn't so inconveniently died in 1998 and prompted the ICANN power grab we might have seen something similar rather sooner.

The "explosion" in TLDs will likely be dampened by the "low 6 figure" cost of registering a TLD.

Root server scaling and the efficient operation of DNS isn't the big issue today (think long caching times on the second level domains, and the presence of a couple of hundred of TLDs anyway)

IDN (and the amusingly-termed "homograph spoofing" ) is more serious from a security and trademark perspective if they eventually allow wider unicode character sets.

[bvark]

network admins fear change.

Some idiots decided to pay our bonuses based on uptime!

[AdamR]

Well, what if I like to access a site on a lan at http://staffcp but someone registers .staffcp, and dns takes their one first priority?

Worst idea ever. Too open for abuse.

[bvark]

If you are still using NBNS to reach staffcp you deserve everything you get :-)

[Deman]

So when does .BFC surface alongside @. :)

[swarfega]

lol just think of all permutations with www.big.*

[Brains-Lans]

Some idiots decided to pay our bonuses based on uptime!

here here! :)

[SENT]

If they start selling .local domain names they will break a LOT

[Elkeeed]

They wont because a server that thinks it is authorative always responds with its own records before it tries to fetch them from a parant server. So if anyone buys .local they will find they don't work with a lot of people. :)

[SENT]

So if anyone buys .local they will find they don't work with a lot of people. :)

isnt that what i said ?

[Boffykins]

No. You said the opposite. You reckon OTHER stuff will break, Elkeeed (rightly, grr) reckons that the purchased .local domains will break.

[SENT]

I understand exactly how it would effect things let me asure you.

web wise not much would "break" the people inside the local domain just wont get the website as the local domain DNS server will just give it the IP it has, which isnt the IP of the website. and everyone outside of their router would just get the website normally. you could quickly mend this by forwarding all port 80 traffic on the resolved address to the actual website IP, so i guess ive talked myself wrong with a quick fix.

Im going to do some tests as this might open up lots of security holes. e.g. IF I bought multiplay.local and sent emails to your exchange server what happens ? or if i set up an exchange server on my multiplay.local
what if i set up a PDC on that domain with an upgraded OS compared to multiplays PDC. in 2000 to 2003 the newer OS PDC would take over the domain.


so many policies use the orginating domain for security there is bound to be some weaknesses somewhere.

and the fraud potential is silly i can buy security.barclays or fraudsquad.gov.police.

they really havent thought this through, but like someone said earlier it "IT guys dont like change" this usually as it means out of hours mending stuff and training the thick morons who still havent grasped how it used to work how it works now.

[Boffykins]

You wouldn't send mails to our Exchange server directly. Our office domain is Firewalled.

[Afty]

IF I bought multiplay.local and sent emails to your exchange server what happens ? or if i set up an exchange server on my multiplay.local
what if i set up a PDC on that domain with an upgraded OS compared to multiplays PDC. in 2000 to 2003 the newer OS PDC would take over the domain.Ermm. Do you have any sort of career in IT administration?

What would happen in this situation is that clients on YOUR network or domain, that trust YOUR DNS servers (or Active Directory) to be authoritative, would send traffic destined for "multiplay" or "multiplay.local" to your PDC.

Traffic for "multiplay.co.uk" would still pass out of your network, and to Multiplay UK Ltds servers in London. Of coure, if you changed your DNS servers to point all A records for "*.multiplay.co.uk" to point to your PDC, then your PDC would receive the emails. This situation is exactly the same as the current situation.

Basically, if you own the DNS servers that other people use for lookups, you can change the details to execute impersonation or Man in the Middle attacks. This is the way it has always been, and this change in ICANN policy will not make a blind bit of difference.

[bvark]

So how do you folks expect new TLDs to be different to .travel, .aero or .museum, which already exist and have entry criteria applied by the registrar?

To me, this just formalises and makes more transparent what was previously a very politicised process for TLD creation. None of the evaluation criteria and rights of objection (which would surely be exercised for .police, .local or .barclays) are very different - they're just written down and agreed now.

[Inferno]

It will just get very very confusing in the long run.

[Nes]

I can't see things going silly with this because the names will be regulated. you won't be able to buy anything silly and it will cost several thousand pounds so your average joe retard won't be able to buy .c*** but business's such as multiplay will be able to buy .multiplay if they so wish.

[Elbonio]

yeah but I want .dotdot

orly.dotdot



I can't see things going silly with this because the names will be regulated. you won't be able to buy anything silly and it will cost several thousand pounds so your average joe retard won't be able to buy .c*** but business's such as multiplay will be able to buy .multiplay if they so wish.

Several millions is what I've heard.

This will ensure that only people with good business ideas will register one because nobody is going to spend millions of pounds/dollars for a joke, they would have to have a meaningful, useful TLD like .blog that people would want to buy from them.

[bvark]

https://par.icann.org/files/paris/GNSO-gTLD-Update-Paris22jun08.pdf covers the likely process for those who might like to read rather than speculate.