View Full Version : DO NOT TALK TO THE POLICE ! - At least in the USA :)
WhiteKnight
17th June 2008, 15:34
Interesting youtube vids telling you why you should NEVER speak to the police, ever. Its American, but the rules still apply over here. You still have the right to remain silent.
Lawyer perspective:
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Police perspective:
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Very interesting... altho they are 25minutes each.
Mouse_On_Mars
17th June 2008, 15:40
tl;dw
What's the jist of it?
Edit: I wouldn't talk to them anyway; they'd more than likely find something to fine me for.
Tsung
17th June 2008, 15:44
It's looks good, and at the speed the guy is talking at, it like getting 1hrs of information in 25mins :).. Will watch later on.. when I have more time..
WhiteKnight
17th June 2008, 15:48
tl;dw
What's the jist of it?
Edit: I wouldn't talk to them anyway; they'd more than likely find something to fine me for.
That basically IS the jist of it..
It doesn't matter if you are guilty or innocent, if you tell the truth or or lie through your teeth.
ANYTHING you say CAN be used against you. And the important thing is that it will NEVER be used to HELP you.
Anyway I would recommended you watch at least the first one, its quite funny in parts, and very enlightening.
Killy
17th June 2008, 16:38
Quite am interesting couple of video's there, actually quite funny too, nice find :)
(Yes I watched them both all the way through)
Mu5icMan
17th June 2008, 16:46
Always talk to the Police if you are completely innocent because the laws in this country are different than the U.S.
If you decide, in England, not to talk to the Police and it goes to trial they could convict you under 'interference'.
Towneh
17th June 2008, 17:06
My dad patrols covent garden as a police special, and always gets people talking to him!
Portia
17th June 2008, 17:13
OOy_oP3ESQY
WhiteKnight
17th June 2008, 17:13
While its true that the UK laws are different to the USA, the idea is largely sound...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_silence_in_England_and_Wales
Most of the time staying silent is your best option given the circumstances tho. At least initially. If you start jabbering as soon as you see a uniform, you could end up "fetching the soap".
And anyway, at least you know how to behave should you run into the plod on holiday :)
Zenith
17th June 2008, 19:17
The problem is that you don't HAVE the right to remain silent in the UK. The initial caution while being arrested states it clearly."I am arresting you under <which law> for <reason>. You don't have to say anything however it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence.It's a veiled threat.
"You can stay silent, but we'll let the court know that you were uncooperative and they'll throw the book at you".
I will answer reasonable questions put to me by an officer, but I won't volunteer information.
PO: "Evening sir, is this your car?"
Zen: "I am the registered keeper"
PO: "And your name sir?"
Zen: <My name>
PO: "Do you have your documents with you?"
Zen: "No I don't"
PO: "Why not?"
Zen: "You already know the documentation status for this car from the PNC check you just made."
That sort of thing. :)
WhiteKnight
17th June 2008, 20:01
I'm fairly sure this is still true of UK law tho.
ANYTHING you say CAN be used against you. And the important thing is that it will NEVER be used to HELP you.
Aardvark
17th June 2008, 20:41
The problem there WK is that when you want to tell the truth but you're not sure if it could be incriminating in error, if you DON'T say it then it becomes LESS reliable when you try to use it in court.
At least, that's my understanding of it.
ez64
17th June 2008, 20:53
Screwed if you do or dont in the uk then.
So really its not guilty until proven inoccent, its if you kept slient your suspect and will be thrown the book at.
Jez_Gafys
17th June 2008, 21:10
Zen: "You already know the documentation status for this car from the PNC check you just made."
That sort of thing. :)
lol sounds a bit cheaky if you say that then some jumped up young cop pulls you from the car beats you in and then does you for resisting arrest :d
Elkeeed
17th June 2008, 21:21
Yeah thats the basic jist of "it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court"
Also there are specific offences with not cooperating, such as not identifying yourself or giving a sample, or providing your documents. Which they can arrest you for.
WhiteKnight
17th June 2008, 21:57
"Not providing keys to any encrypted data you may have......" what a joke that one is.
Some times i really feel like emmigrating..
Semajal
17th June 2008, 23:21
Would depend on a situation, ive spoken to the police once about something, told them the truth, eventually the 2 people i was with also stopped trying to tell lies, police let us go.
Meh ive always found the best thing is to be helpful. They arnt exactly out to cause unnessesery paper work by messing with people for no reason.
OC if being arrested its best to be quiet.
AdamR
18th June 2008, 03:40
Videos no longer available?
Videos no longer available?
I've just watched them
webvictim
20th June 2008, 14:03
I am shockingly cynical about the police as I have had nothing but bad experiences with them. They have pulled me over several times despite having no reason to do so, they have charged me money to have my car towed when it was unnecessary, and they have sent me on a driving course for being in an accident that wasn't my fault. I tend to treat my experiences with them these days as something of a comic moment, in the hope that they might go away and leave me alone.
Dentist
20th June 2008, 14:06
I had a ****ing dream about this last night :/
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