ADSL connection sharing

[Unter_hosen]

i am on BTO...... which might sound bad , but they have just upgraded the server that i connect to .. which means that i get a nice l33t ping.

thing is...

i have a server that is running as a server... i.e its the gateway which i connect my PCs through... via a hub.
If i want to DCC someone something over IRC i cant do it off my machine which is connected to the server.. i have to upload the file to the server and then DCC it using IRC on my server...

is there any way round this??

i am using MS ICS btw.... someone suggested using SYgate or something.... but i dunno how to set the bugger up... and is it any good?

[MONK]

yeah with ICS I am also certain (although I don't use it) that you can't.

Get winroute or SYgate. I use winroute and that works fine you can get it form

www.tinysoftware.com

It gives you a lot of option like downloading you're mail , firewall (packet filtering, nat) it will let you use ICQ, irc and just about everything else. And best of all it is free!

[Jedi180]

i have the same problem unter :P same setup too by he sounds of it :P

[Unter_hosen]

i think monk may have the answer then...... but..


i dunno how to set up either of these 2 progs...

coz on thursday night i am having 5 people over my h00se for a mini lan before we drive to n00bury

and if they wanna get files from people of the net on IRC i dont wanna have to keep visiting the server computer in the other room and powering it up to a screen and ****e.. coz its annoying

[SmartMonkey]

If you dont want to have to work out how to set it up, why dont you download the 30 day trial of Radmin from www.radmin.com and use it to remote control your server pc?

SmartMonkey

[Unter_hosen]

already got it matey

see j00 in IRC? #multiplay or come and see me in #-=tge=-

[KermitTheFrag]

Or you could just use smoothwall if the machine is dedicated - supports adsl no probs.

http://www.smoothwall.org/

[[Tuba]Naps]

/me though you was only allowed 1 pc connected to your adsl unless your a business and pay business rates! you bad boy!

[wishy]

BT "Do not prevent you doing this, however they don't support it" was the official line i remeber.

[MONK]

You are not allowed to have multplay people connecting!

But BT don't check unless you use lots and lots of bandwidth!

And there isn't anyway they could stop you without checking first.

[m00]

But you can't use any more bandwidth with a LAN than with just a single machine anyway?

[zhardoum]

not true, depending on the bandwidth the one machine connects at... not many people use full bandwidth 24/7, even when they think they do, it depends on where they connect to, usually the bandwidth is only 24% used, if its at, or near to 100% 24/7 eyebrows will be raised

[WhiteKnight]

Originally posted by MONK
And best of all it is free!

Winroute isnt free, your copy is, erm, a trial, yes, a trial.....

lol

Only the personal firewall is free for private use.

[wishy]

Originally posted by MONK
You are not allowed to have multplay people connecting!

But BT don't check unless you use lots and lots of bandwidth!

And there isn't anyway they could stop you without checking first.

I'm assuming that you mean multiplul. Acutally, i asked bT about using it over a network before i signed up and they said it was fine, but they didn't support it.

[MONK]

Yes!

No one from multiplay is allowed to connect :D

Kewl they first said only one machine was allowed to be connected at least you can't get chucked off now...WK :D

[wishy]

BTi was the same arrangement as BTo AKAIK, when i joined BTi about 2 years ago, they said it was fine, when i switched to BTo, they said it was ok

[Siuko]

http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/ics/icsconfig_maps.htm

I think this may be what your looking for :)

It is a page with downloadable port mappings for ICS that you just import..... and it has ones for IRC DCC - which is what you were asking for.....

GL with it... hope it helps :)

[wishy]

Or you could use winroute, a proper program

[Cabe]

Originally posted by KermitTheFrag
Or you could just use smoothwall if the machine is dedicated - supports adsl no probs.

http://www.smoothwall.org/

i was under the impression that Smoothwall didnt support USB?

and as he's on BTOpenwoe...

[m00]

It does... look at the site

[SquireMuldoon]

Wishy. BTo/BTi have been lying to you. The operator may have said it was fine to share your insternet connection, but id you check the terms and conditions that you have signed, then you'll find that its not. I know, I have read them.

Saying that tho, I doubt they would care much unless you are becomming a bandwidth hog as Zhardoum was talking about.

[Big Giant Head]

LOL well the bt engineer installed an adsl modem onto a server machine in my garage no questions asked, even when I asked him to confirm it was OK he said it was fine

Muppet engineers :)

[wishy]

They had no problems taking the line to my server box. And i check the conditions and i don't remeber seeing anything.

[SquireMuldoon]

Dont force me to physicly hurt you next time I see you. :p:

Tell ya wot. I'll read through the terms and conditions again and quote you clause and paragraph where it says you cant. Hows that?

[SquireMuldoon]

/me just had a thought.

Of course this is the point where you turn around and tell me you have the business product. If you do, lets just say you shall be deserving of my close personal attention at the next event.

[SmartMonkey]

one of my friends has the business product. can you say 13 fixed IP addresses?

SmartMonkey

[MONK]

Bring on IPv6 :)

[KermitTheFrag]

yeah then we dont have to run vhosts any more!! woohoo!

[wishy]

Well, i found a new computer mag while looking for the T's and C's

The only 2 Parragraphs i can see which apply are 11.2 and 11.3
11.2
"We may make availbile to you software that enables you to use the service. You must not copy or modify this. It is important that you only access the service through this software or in alrternative ways permitted by us"

11.3
"When we provide you with the service it, and any associated software, is intended for your use only. Therefore you must not re-sell, transfere, assign or sub licence the service (Or any part of it) to anyone else"

Well, we use their software to dial and then route it, i can't see a problem with that. And Its only us that use it, not any third party.
All a bit vaigue to remove people from the service for anyway.

[Embattle]

Sharing Internet connections is so easy with CM :)

[SquireMuldoon]

DAMN!

DAMN, DAMN, DAMN, DAMN, DAMN!

Very well, I shall concede this point. I looked and couldn't find it either. I swear I saw it somwhere, just doesn't appear to be there now.

The closest I found was in the AUPs about not sharing logon details. :mad:

[BugAlugs]

-=TGE=-Unter_hosen

You will find that the ICS you use probably knows about IRC ports so can set it up.

What it does not know is how to handle DCC connections.

What I do with my setup (a DSL router) is that I have it assume that all connections that are new or unkown should be routed to my main home PC.. so new TCP/IP PORTS are always routed to my machine... After I did this all things like DDC, some games and ICQ file sending now work.

So essentialy you need a firewall/routing proggy that must be told to route traffic to your PC

And for you T&Cs I only have 1 PC connected to the Router, but it still needed to be told where to send data to.

[BugAlugs]

-=TGE=-Unter_hosen

You will find that the ICS you use probably knows about IRC ports so can set it up.

What it does not know is how to handle DCC connections.

What I do with my setup (a DSL router) is that I have it assume that all connections that are new or unkown should be routed to my main home PC.. so new TCP/IP PORTS are always routed to my machine... After I did this all things like DDC, some games and ICQ file sending now work.

So essentialy you need a firewall/routing proggy that must be told to route traffic to your PC

And for you T&Cs I only have 1 PC connected to the Router, but it still needed to be told where to send data to.

-=TGE=-Unter_hosen, find me in #multiplay and I can talk you through it.

[D2M]

bugs smells!

[wishy]

Well, my router i just send on the ports i want to the machine i want, works better, you at least have to know what your forwarding. But i could just forward the lot to my machine, its just a silly thing to do really.

[BugAlugs]

god I'm hot for j00 D2M

[m00]

/me strokes Bugs :D

[[Tuba]Naps]

i clearly have no idea at all what joor sig meens. pls elighten meh!

[m00]

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