Transfer File

[Laup]

My firend and I both have fast broadband.

I would like to send a large file (3Gb) to my friend.

I dont want to set up an FTP server nor buy online storage as I only transfer files like this once in a while.

I am currently sending him a burned DVD in the post or using SKYPE file transfer but Skype only works at around 60Kb/s and it takes 12 hours. I have looked at a couple of web sites that do similar to skype but they only achieve the same speeds.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

[tucool]

This may be complete tosh, and Im not sure what laws (if indeed any) it breaks. I know little about PC's and interweb connections so this is info that will either have to be agreed to by some technowhizz forum regulars or shot down like a polar bear on an island...

Why dont you and your friend get torrent clients (Utorrent, Vuze or similar) and upload the file to a torrent site then he can download them via torrent at fast(ish,er,-not at all) speeds.

As has been said, this could be all crap info or it could be breaking laws or it could be OMFGZ FILESHARING or whatever... someone might explain more :D

[Frag-O-Byte]

thats how i share files with my bros and dad share using bit torrent its allowed as long as its not copywrited material, but boy! i can achive some fast upload speeds!

600-700kb upload, not long to wait then and beats msn share thingy..

[KingDaveRa]

60kbs might be your maximum upload speed. I assume you're on ADSL MAX, in which case I think that is the maximum upload speed anyway. Not sure about cable, but I think it's also around that much now.

ADSL2+ providers like Be offer faster uploads, which are just wubly :D

[Laup]

We are both on Cable - my connection is 20Mb and his is 8Mb.

Thanks for the suggestions on Torrents. I had considered this but I dont want my cable company deciding I am an evil file sharer as I am sure they cant tell that my torrent packets are legal and will just block or throttle my ports.

[AdamR]

virgin media give 1 meg upload on their 20 meg download cable (which is 128 kB/second). sometimes they only slap on 768k upload (which is 96 kB/sec). Torrent is the best way for you, or if you prefer, both get on IRC and perform a DCC file transfer.

Alternatively, you could both use this application (http://www.whitsoftdev.com/ssft/) - one of you will have to ensure you can accept an inbound port (which you'd have to do for torrenting anyway). This is the best sollution for a one off transfer.

http://www.whitsoftdev.com/images/ssft.png

[Quietus]

To be honest though, uploading at full rate (if you're on 1mbit upload as suggested) will still take 6 hours and will slow your connection down. Your current solution of DVDs through the post probably takes less of your time, effectively costing less.

The suggestion of torrenting it will make no speed change at all to be honest, since the cap is your upload speed. Personally, I would run an ftp server at one end (if you do decide to go for sending the file over the internet).

[Squeeb]

irc's DCC method is probably your best bet. And it's resumable.
Either that or get IIS or Apache installed and get him to download the file from your webserver..

Will render your internet unusable for the best part of 6 - 12 hours though.. You'll have to ... go outside.. or .. go the beach or something.

[Zenith]

Think of it this way.
Sending a DVDR in the post is effectively fast transfer speed, just with HUGE latency and no packet loss. :)

[RocketKnight]

That's the way our government seems to think about it. :p:

[Nikumba]

Think of it this way.
Sending a DVDR in the post is effectively fast transfer speed, just with HUGE latency and no packet loss. :)

Or 100% packet loss with the government :)

[Frag-O-Byte]

That's the way our government seems to think about it. :p:

Ouch! lol

[AdamR]

Erm... uploading at your max speed does NOT have to render your connection unusable. That's why modern routers have quality of service. I can upload files AND still get 50 ms to game servers.

* strokes his Draytek Vigor 2800.

But then again many people turn off and unsinstall QoS from their Windows computers because they read tweaking or gaming sites that tell them to, then beliving they are improving performance all around like the golden management-type vision from the guide shows, when really QoS can be used to prioritise gaming packets above other stuff like HTTP.

All about the priorities :D

[Frag-O-Byte]

Erm... uploading at your max speed does NOT have to render your connection unusable. That's why modern routers have quality of service. I can upload files AND still get 50 ms to game servers.

* strokes his Draytek Vigor 2800.

But then again many people turn off and unsinstall QoS from their Windows computers because they read tweaking or gaming sites that tell them to, then beliving they are improving performance all around like the golden management-type vision from the guide shows, when really QoS can be used to prioritise gaming packets above other stuff like HTTP.

All about the priorities :D

wow thanks for the info i for one have done esactly what you are talking about and shunted QoS because of i read that it degrades your gaming experiance.

thanks again.

[AdamR]

Guilty, running QoS will require some CPU time. However it is very efficient and will require under 1% of your CPU even at 100 megabits of stuff to look through. Also remember that most CPU's these days have dual/quad core or hyper threading :)

Gaming guides will also claim that the default 20% reserved bandwidth will be unusable, because the author has no idea how the QoS service in Windows works. By default, Windows will allow 20% of bandwidth for applications and services deemed as "high priority". This bandwidth is simply guaranteed, not reserved. Anything can use this so called "reserved" bandwidth until it is needed for a high priority protocol.

Best advice: Keep the QoS service installed and enabled on your network interfaces, leave the reserve percentage at 20 in your group policy, and leave the QoS service running - it attaches on to the networking svchost.exe, so it doesn't create another process.

Finally, if your router supports QoS ensure you tell it what protocols to prioritise. More and more routers these days are taking QoS into account, and it's just wonderful although useless until configured properly.

Here is how I have configured my Draytek Vigor 2800's QoS:

http://www.reece-eu.net/tmp/vigor2800-qos.gif

Important contains protocols:

AUTH (TCP 113)
DNS (TCP/UDP 53)
IRC (TCP/UDP 6667-6669)
PING
SSH (TCP/UDP 22)
TELNET (TCP 23)

Games contains protocols:

HL/SRC (TCP/UDP 27005-27014)
HLDS1 (TCP/UDP 27015-27016)
HLDS2 (TCP/UDP 27025-27026)
HLSW (TCP/UDP 7130-7139)

Common contains protocols:

FTP (TCP/UDP 20-21)
HTTP (TCP/UDP 80)
HTTPS (TCP/UDP 443)
NFS (UDP 2049)
POP3 (TCP 110)
SFTP (TCP 115)
SMTP (TCP 25)
TFTP (UDP 69)

[AdamR]

Guilty, running QoS will require some CPU time. However it is very efficient and will require under 1% of your CPU even at 100 megabits of stuff to look through. Also remember that most CPU's these days have dual/quad core or hyper threading :)

Gaming guides will also claim that the default 20% reserved bandwidth will be unusable, because the author has no idea how the QoS service in Windows works. By default, Windows will allow 20% of bandwidth for applications and services deemed as "high priority". This bandwidth is simply guaranteed, not reserved. Anything can use this so called "reserved" bandwidth until it is needed for a high priority protocol.

Best advice: Keep the QoS service installed and enabled on your network interfaces, leave the reserve percentage at 20 in your group policy, and leave the QoS service running - it attaches on to the networking svchost.exe, so it doesn't create another process.

Finally, if your router supports QoS ensure you tell it what protocols to prioritise.

Here is how I have configured my Draytek Vigor 2800's QoS (just under basic config):

http://www.reece-eu.net/tmp/vigor2800-qos.gif

Important contains protocols:

AUTH (TCP 113)
DNS (TCP/UDP 53)
IRC (TCP/UDP 6667-6669)
PING
SSH (TCP/UDP 22)
TELNET (TCP 23)

Games contains protocols:

HL/SRC (TCP/UDP 27005-27014)
HLDS1 (TCP/UDP 27015-27016)
HLDS2 (TCP/UDP 27025-27026)
HLSW (TCP/UDP 7130-7139)

Common contains protocols:

FTP (TCP/UDP 20-21)
HTTP (TCP/UDP 80)
HTTPS (TCP/UDP 443)
NFS (UDP 2049)
POP3 (TCP 110)
SFTP (TCP 115)
SMTP (TCP 25)
TFTP (UDP 69)