Seating Setup?

[Oricalcos]

From the booking site, I see that you are able to choose your seat. However, I thought the system used for i-series was that clans and communities sat together after booking and it was put together by game sections in a 'jigsaw puzzle' like system.

So my query would be; Is the specific seat selection just for those at i33, and the usual system will be used for those booking after it. Or will it be everyone must choose a seat, before and after i33, meaning that clans and communities must arrange when they book and what seats they wish to occupy in a small period of time, and must book simultaneously in order to be assured of sitting together?

[Regular Hero]

i have to agree i think the seating in game sections works far far better and easier to find games and opponents.

[Skippas]

Think it's for friendly clans to choose to sit next to each other. I'm sure once everyones chosen their seats they'll probably adjust it around so everyone is next to groups they like. All the groups have their body odours, not just the css lot >_>

[Boffykins]

We're going to be adding more management features to that over the coming weeks, for example the ability to delegate your seat to your clan leader, and giving people tools to manage lots of seats at once. The outlined game areas are a guide at the moment, at some point these will go away and the seating should in theory take it's own course :)

[Idylla]

We're going to be adding more management features to that over the coming weeks, for example the ability to delegate your seat to your clan leader, and giving people tools to manage lots of seats at once. The outlined game areas are a guide at the moment, at some point these will go away and the seating should in theory take it's own course :)

Boff,

Just completely out of interest - why the move to 'PYO Seat' ?

Isn't this a complete logistical nightmare?

[Murray-Mint]

Quite the reverse. It works exceptionally well for Dreamhack who use a very similar system. PYO IS the future. Especially when the grouping seats option Boff talks about is there.

[Niax]

Isn't this a complete logistical nightmare?

PYO Seat is less of a logistical nightmare in terms of pre-lan preparation as seating doesn't have to be planned by Boff

2000+ people seating would be a seriously hard job, even if Boff is awesome at it.

[#cM]

Hmmm

Now i'm sure this question will be asked many many times and may have already been asked, but i'll ask again.

My Clan & myself will be attending i34 and will more than likely have 10+ BYOC Attendees. Now not everyone can pay at the same time, some might not pay for 2 months after the public release of i34 tickets and we all want to sit together. In fact we want to be sitting in the same area as the game we are playing, i.e. CoD4 because its easier to find a quick LAN War when like minded people are next to you :D

Now i generally arrange the MPUK i-Series for our Clan and i really would like to know the exact details of what i should do so all our players are together.

Is there an option to simply say "Arrange Seats as per Clan Tag & Gametype" like previous i-series? or do I / We get an option to block out a certain number of seats for our Clan i.e. 10 that would need to be paid for within a set time period?

Or do we simply choose the Seat Number when Booked and the Clanleader then needs to say to MPUK for example... Seats aa2, c23, b66, hh2, t76, n9 and so on, need to be together please?

Just a Sticky explaining the new PYOS system for i34 would be appreciated.

Many Thanks & Cya @ i34 (Provided we are sitting together ;) )
Cheers

[Niax]

From what I remember - Clan Leaders can be given the responsibility of clan member's seat locations & PYOS systems in the past often have some kind of system to request for people to move locations

[Mouse_On_Mars]

The point he's making is not all his clan members can pay early, so their seats cannot be reserved.
Until you pay, you can't have a seat, so I'd get on their backs and make them cough up ASAP.

And, as Boff has mentioned, group/clan management is in the pipeline.

[#cM]

so I'd get on their backs and make them cough up ASAP

That would be the ideal world, the reality is far from it.

I know that 5 will pay almost straight away (Prays for 20% off Offer ;) ) and from previous Lans we've attended the others pay literally when they can but thats generally done well before the Event Starts.

What we dont want to happen is some waiting for others to be able to pay and missing out on any potential 20% offer, if they are indeed doing that offer. I appreciate that group/clan management is in the pipeline it was purely some sort of clarification on what we do now, considering some people will pay as soon as the Tickets are there to buy.

Guessing we will just have to wait and see.

Cheers

[beZaa]

Fair point

When sign ups open properly and I pay and click my seat.

What stops others sitting next to me in the time between me signing up and others in my clan?

Obviously we need to ensure we are all sat together, but I can only see randomness and nothing stopping anyone else picking say the next 5 seats next to me and that means the others in my clan couldnt.

Would I then just have to move my seat? I think an explanation for those of us who aren't quite up to speed with the ins and outs of this system would be of great benefit.

Cheers :D

[Mouse_On_Mars]

What stops others sitting next to me in the time between me signing up and others in my clan?
Nothing but if one of your clan mates wants that seat, they can click "request this seat" and the current seat holder will be notified. Then they can choose to give it up or not.

[#cM]

Nothing but if one of your clan mates wants that seat, they can click "request this seat" and the current seat holder will be notified. Then they can choose to give it up or not.

Really? thats how it works...

hmmm, more thought and arrangement on our behalf will need to be done before sign-up.

Seriously though, MPUK i just want all my clan together and in the CoD4 Section, i personally dont want to Pick my own seat, you've done that job very well in the past :D

Will wait for clarification.

Cheers for the replies Mouse On Mars

[Niax]

From what I remember - Clan Leaders can be given the responsibility of clan member's seat locations & PYOS systems in the past often have some kind of system to request for people to move locations

The point he's making is not all his clan members can pay early, so their seats cannot be reserved

The point I'm making is that even if he doesn't have all seats next to one another, a system should be in place to request for people to move such that they can

[Snake3yes]

This was a concern we had aswell. Generally 2 or 3 of us pay early with the rest over the next couple of months. It would be nice if a clan could pre-book a block of seats subject to payment being in say 1 month before the event actually starts. If I couldn't get seats next to my mates I honestly wouldn't see the point of going.

[K]

i34 including Early Bird discount is now available for everyone Go Go Go!!!

[K]

To answer the questions re-grouping your clan thats now down to you, we will be adding more features to the seat picker as we move forward. For now the only way to get your clan all sat together is to ensure they pay early enough to pick all your seats together.

You can request to swap a seat with another player but its down to them if they want to accept or reject your request so I would strongly encorage everyone to book as early as possible not to mention you get the early bird discount!

[#cM]

To answer the questions re-grouping your clan thats now down to you, we will be adding more features to the seat picker as we move forward. For now the only way to get your clan all sat together is to ensure they pay early enough to pick all your seats together.

You can request to swap a seat with another player but its down to them if they want to accept or reject your request so I would strongly encorage everyone to book as early as possible not to mention you get the early bird discount!

When will the "Extra Seat Picker thingy" be ready? I hope a long time before the Early Bird discount disappears.

Also, are the relevant Game Areas still available? i.e. CoD4 in that Corner, CS:S in that Corner or is it every game everywhere?

Cheers

[K]

There are still game area guidelines but they are just that. We have mapped out spaces for the various games to help aid peoples selection but there are no real restrictions so if you play COD4 and want to sit in the DM FPS aka UT section :D then you can do just that.

While the features Boff mentioned are on the road map there are no current time frames for them so I would advise you dont rely on them being available. Instead look to get all your guys signed up ASAP to avoid disappointment.

[#cM]

Instead look to get all your guys signed up ASAP to avoid disappointment.


Wow i only have 10 people to arrange payment for, cant imagine the headaches for those that are bigger. :)

Guessing the "Extra Seat Picker Thingy" should have been in place before asking people to PYOS.

Anyway, cheers for the reply and lets hope Early Bird Sign-up is quite a long time :D

[K]

It should actually be pretty simple as you can search for you existing clan members and then just plonk your bumb down next to them :)

[{BA} Red Plague]

As organizer for Badacid, I do feel that this will make my job a little harder, but I can't complain as I can guess how hard 2000 seat would be to organise.

My only worry is I get something like 7 or 8 BA signed up in one section, then 1 or 2 "single" signups block me from adding any more clan members, forcing me to move everyone.

I know the argument will be to get everyone paid ASAP but as always life is never that easy. Should be interesting to see how it goes for i34.

[K]

This is why you can request a seat that someone already occupies, I'm sure if your nice a friendly in the request message most people will be happy to accommodate you if they can :)

[chucky341]

Wow i only have 10 people to arrange payment for, cant imagine the headaches for those that are bigger. :)

Guessing the "Extra Seat Picker Thingy" should have been in place before asking people to PYOS.

Anyway, cheers for the reply and lets hope Early Bird Sign-up is quite a long time :D


cant ur clan just pre book there seats

cuz i aint paid yet but i am booked so i am seating in cod4 area G-1

p.s i know that if u dont pay ur seat is not defo confirmed but at least it is pre booked ??

[Niax]

cuz i aint paid yet but i am booked so i am seating in cod4 area G-1

Eeek! You can't have that seat, our server reports that: Booking is not marked as paid.

[K]

That little glitch was fixed promptly. You havent booked until you have paid so no you can't reserve a seat.

[chucky341]

well it show up on mine that i pre booked that seat but not sure wot is shows on ne other log in :)

[K]

Whats your booking reference there chucky341 as Im not showing any people seated that havent paid.

[chucky341]

64148 that my id for i34

it might not be booked

cuz when i click on that seat it bring up my details but in the action bit it is say this is not ur seat

[K]

Correct thats not your seat, its someone elses, you need to pay before you can choose a seat now. Anyone who picked a seat before paying has been cleared from the seating plan, sorry for the confusion.

[#cM]

Hi

I have a plan tbh, we'll just book & pay for every other seat in a row, that means the slow buggers should still get a spot next to the other clan members.

However it would be far far far simpler if MPUK just allowed us to Book the 10 Seats and give a SET date to pay by.

Must admit Plan A might just work :)

[K]

Unfortunately its not in our interest to allow people to reserve seats before paying so your second option wont happen.

Your other option would be to make a group booking. This currently has to be done manually by ringing up the office but we are looking at enhancing this process in the work Boff spoke about.

[Elkeeed]

I foresee this scheme as epic fail although we won't know for sure till we give it ago. For the odd person getting them to move may be straight forward but if a small clan blocks off the seats next to you it's going to be a lot more hassle. It doesn't work well for cinemas even if 20% of the seats are unoccupied let alone a sell out so I expect a lot of unhappy gamers.

[Porkeh]

wow, going to fun getting all 35+ of us sat together...

[#cM]

Hi

Got most of our Clan paid up now and seated, but we did spread ourselves over an area to keep the Clan together, which I already said we needed to do. However i think this has simply put extra pressure on people to pay up straight away to make sure they get a seat next to the clan they play in.

Personally, the Extra CL Options that were mentioned should have been Online and Ready for the PYOS, before using this system.

I personally didnt want to block out a random number of seats, but MPUK left me with no option.

Cheers

[Idylla]

I would laugh so hard if people picked all those gaps inbetween you!

[#cM]

I would laugh so hard if people picked all those gaps inbetween you!

And that would be funny why? Guessing its people like you that would do such as thing.

However, I cant expect all 13 Clan Members to pay up within a few minutes of each other, just so we can all sit together. So attempting to book those seats around us is the only way. Last night I got 4 of the 13 to Pay up straight away and book a seat, i have another 4 Booking on Friday (Payday). Now i've made a big effort to get people to cough up NOW, so the least i expect is others looking to book a seat wouldn't choose a seat in our Row. I wouldn't do it to them and i would expect the same in return, or am i too courteous?

Personally (and i'll say it for about the 3rd time), MPUK needed to consider the implications of PYOS for Clans, which appears to have been forgotten here. The system for CL to arrange seats should have been in place before PYOS, then people would have no reason to worry about sitting with their clan members / mates.

Cheers

[her0n]

Basically, people are going to have to pay early and/or rely on the good kind hearts of others when requesting seats.

I'm sure there will be many bribes offered once the event draws nearer! :p:

[Say_Ten]

Personally (and i'll say it for about the 3rd time), MPUK needed to consider the implications of PYOS for Clans, which appears to have been forgotten here. The system for CL to arrange seats should have been in place before PYOS, then people would have no reason to worry about sitting with their clan members / mates.

Not forgotten at all but as with all requirements you have to prioritise and complete those that you have the resources to achieve. HOWEVER, even if you had the ability to seat your clan mates you would still only be able to seat the ones that have paid.

[Species]

Why not leave seating selection closed until a certain number of weeks before the event and then inform everyone via email that seating selections are open.

That way a good majority will have paid up and can pick/request seating arrangements at one time.

In some ways this would be similar to booking a flight and printing your boarding pass online, each passenger pays at varying times in advance but you can't login to print your boarding pass/select your seat until X number of hours before the scheduled departure time. (At least I think this is how it works, always done things the traditional way so far.)

[K]

Picking your seat is an incentive to book early. The earlier people book the more planning for tournaments etc we can do and the more possibilities it opens up for tournament sponsorship.

[Delirium[CaL]]

Will we be able to easily cancel our booking and get a full refund if we are unable to find suitable seats for our clan? If not I am hesitant to book my seat until everyone in our clan had the funds and were ready to make their booking.

[K]

You can get a refund, minus a £10 admin fee, after booking if you cancel before 1 month prior to the event as is stated on the terms and conditions. Additionally if the event sells out and we are able to resell your ticket you can also receive a refund.

Booking ASAP will ensure you get the seats you want, and I'm sure other gamers will do their best to accommodate requests :)

[WaKKo-]

if you got 5 people signing up just get them to leave a space between each seat :p then u got space for a few more people inbetween ;)

[Predat0r]

Here's a thought.

If you're reserving space in the LAN before paying (etc reserved booking thing) it never really has much other point aside from that.

This would be an excellent time to give some sort of meaning to the entire pre-pay reserving method that still exists without any sort of point. Allow reserved seat people to pick their own seats, but at the same time expiring the reservations quicker, therefore making sure that the reservation is still valid and the person in question hasn't changed their mind before the month is through.

Just a thought however. Could in fact be a terrible idea. :p

[Say_Ten]

It exists from the days before online payments, it allowed booking information to be provided automatically while payments were still processed by hand, speeding things up. Rather than give it a meaning it would be best to remove it at all.

[Rastaman-FB]

Unfortunately its not in our interest to allow people to reserve seats before paying so your second option wont happen
its really nice that you care for money over clan convenience even though its the clans that make this possible, lets just hope the source section isnt full of selfish b'tards as if you look its dotted about and messed up already

its wierd how you wouldnt do it any other way cos as far as money is concerned you know all the seats are going to be filled regardless so making it an "incentive to pay up early" is a bit backwards. MPUK will get the money regardless

ill get my seats sorted, theres only 6 of us going but i think being a bit more lenient and letting people pick a seat when they have booked rather than paid would be a much better solution

[ledbythereaper]

And that would be funny why? Guessing its people like you that would do such as thing.

However, I cant expect all 13 Clan Members to pay up within a few minutes of each other, just so we can all sit together. So attempting to book those seats around us is the only way. Last night I got 4 of the 13 to Pay up straight away and book a seat, i have another 4 Booking on Friday (Payday). Now i've made a big effort to get people to cough up NOW, so the least i expect is others looking to book a seat wouldn't choose a seat in our Row. I wouldn't do it to them and i would expect the same in return, or am i too courteous?

Personally (and i'll say it for about the 3rd time), MPUK needed to consider the implications of PYOS for Clans, which appears to have been forgotten here. The system for CL to arrange seats should have been in place before PYOS, then people would have no reason to worry about sitting with their clan members / mates.

Cheers

Meh, eCK/No Daddy! have to get around 25 people to book at pay asap :(

[Gom8z]

Agree with Rasta here.. I do think that maybe a deposit scheme would have been nice so people could pay an initial deposit of £10 to their ticket and then be able to book a seat meaning you won't get a mad rush.

How many times have you been in a cinema seen the odd gaps here and there and been able to tell a couple to more rows to help you out. shuffling one space aint the same.

If the seating planner got to stressed out hire people for each section.. I'll sort these css lot out!

[K]

its really nice that you care for money over clan convenience even though its the clans that make this possible, lets just hope the source section isnt full of selfish b'tards as if you look its dotted about and messed up already

its wierd how you wouldnt do it any other way cos as far as money is concerned you know all the seats are going to be filled regardless so making it an "incentive to pay up early" is a bit backwards. MPUK will get the money regardless

ill get my seats sorted, theres only 6 of us going but i think being a bit more lenient and letting people pick a seat when they have booked rather than paid would be a much better solution

You dont get to pick you seats at the cinema before you pay for a reason and personally I dont see how any other event should be different.

If we allowed people to pick a seat before paying, you would have a full seating plan almost instantly and those who actually booked wouldn't be able to get a seat due to people who hadn't paid taking up all the seats. If we did a small deposit we would also have a very similar situation and no guarantee that these would be turned into full bookings. This would be very messy and confusing for everyone.

Some may not be aware that if you want to ensure all your party is in the same place we can take group bookings over the phone.

[Gom8z]

We'd still have to pay though in full surely k for that group booking?

And i must have written wrong about the seat picking at cinema's Im not saying you should pick before... I'm saying that its poorly done too but you have to like it or lump it. Hoping your not gonna come back with that saying btw!

Ok could you not do some kind of ghost marker over seats maybe. Ie people who have paid a deposit noting where they want to sit.

Also are you telling me that say i have 10 people in a row and for some reason some guy has nicked a seat dead in the middle of us. and he's not with anyone he has full rights no matter what about staying sat there.

Ta for replying btw. Im not trying to argue im just trying to discuss ideas for the future.

[Rastaman-FB]

you cannot use the analogy of a cinema because at a cinema you are not taking your entire computer and frankly it doesnt matter much if you are not sat together as you are watching a film not playing a tactical game where you rely on communications

maybe for UT and other game types being seperated is fine when playing 1v1 2v2 but in source its 5v5.

please dont be blinded by your own views and understand that im not saying let anyone just pick a seat.

you also mention people who booked.

booking is different to paying, people have to pay to reserve a seat even though they have already booked. even though its early bird and they get 20% off some people cannot pay at this time especially so soon after i33 but if theyre booking then atleast they can pick their seats

i really dont see what the issue is with that as they have booked and got a booking reference and if for some reason they decide that they are no longer coming then when the reference is canceled it removes their booked seat

imo the whole reason why you have done this is for convenience but if you look at it from another side its a hindrance unless you allow for some provisions

im not saying this to be an ass, im saying it because you are opening the floodgates from some serious problems a few months down the line

you will get teams not wanting to book through fear of not being able to sit together. everyone might aswell go tup

[#cM]

Hi

Well MPUK have all 13 of our Members Money and we are all seated together in the CoD Section.

I had to put a lot of pressure on people to pay up now and before the 20% discount offer ended, luckily we've done this and i can now have the piece of mind that we are all together.

Cheers & Cya @ i34

[Goots]

Nice #cM, I'm happy for you. :)

Unfort, there were 39 of us at i33 and I'm already feeling the stress towards i34.

The PYOC system as it stands can only encourage single punters and discourage clans. So much for promoting tourneys.

[SilentMike]

This thread is full of WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Goots]

If you can't bring something constructive to the thread why bother posting ?

Troll says it all.

[SilentMike]

All you do is bitch and whine about multiplays so called money grabbing.
The system now in place works for large events such as DH so why cant it work for the iseries.
I think its jsut silly that clans are blaming multiplay for there lack of organisation.
Oh and yes i am a troll and yes i dont give a toss. Sue me.

[gemini]

Good to hear that it has worked out for you #cM

[Chicane]

Nice #cM, I'm happy for you. :)

Unfort, there were 39 of us at i33 and I'm already feeling the stress towards i34.

The PYOC system as it stands can only encourage single punters and discourage clans. So much for promoting tourneys.

well not really.

what it is doing is encouraging you to get all your clan members paid for the event.

i'm sure if you did this and then ring the mpuk office you'd be able to block a row or something.