RTS Tournaments at i34

[Boffykins]

We have room for around 3 RTS prize-winning tournaments at i34. Tell us which ones you want!

Note to RTO: Drinking RON is not a valid choice. :p:

[Dux0r]

starcraft 2 clearly :)

starcraft games are just great to watch.

[gemini]

I voted for Starcraft or Starcraft 2. What that means is, Starcraft2 only. No original Starcraft please.

[rastamanblues]

Company of heroes, or DEFCON :P

[Narella]

Warcraft III - you can NEVER get enough of it!

[Dogbertuk]

This lan needs more DOTA

[Narella]

:whs:

[siteslammer]

it clearly has to be supcom!

[Hg]

Company of heroes, its a great game

[Murray-Mint]

CoH. That is all.

[Sir_Loui]

Supcom Forged Alliance. That´s all..!

[razsammy]

SC:FA ftw

[kandy]

WiC + Supcom/Starcraft2 :)

[ez64]

WARCRAFT 3 MOAR

DotA is pretty damn fun as well.

[Boffykins]

Keep 'em coming!

[tucool]

DOTA, Warcraft III

[pad]

I agree with my darling tucool.

[Angelu5]

CoH ftw

[Reaper]

Dawn of War!

[Dentist]

I have to say that i think this poll will suffer from a case of the vocal minority. I hope MPUK have this in mind when interpreting the results.

[Dwarfy]

do i really have to say what i voted for? :p

CoH all the way :D

[[TRS]MONSTER]

C&C Generals:Zero Hour FTW

[Dogbertuk]

Oh god not zh

you should sit on ventrilo and play some dota.

[rupertt]

red alert 3 tbh :p

[Shazz]

COH

end of discussion.

[the-goon]

CoH yarp!

[Djinn]

SupCom obviously!

[CoinBox]

cod 4 for the win!

[Dwarfy]

with the latest 2.3 patch for CoH it has to be this game for i34

with the addition of Arranged Teams it will start to Really take off from a competive side of things

CoH FTW :)

[Skippas]

World in Conflict and Company of Heroes all the way!

[Jamie^]

RED ALERT 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hudson]

supcom for teh immense win!

[J4Y]

what happend to all the 1v1 FPS :mad:

[J4Y]

all the FPS are 5v5 6v6 wtf!! what happens if you have way more skill then your fellow dj's you role 1v1 ....what that u cant ahhhh

[Anim]

a) you make no sense

b) this is a thread regarding the rts events, nothing about the fps stuff yet

c) dota.

[Kaidence]

DotA should be awesome!

[TomM]

all the FPS are 5v5 6v6 wtf!! what happens if you have way more skill then your fellow dj's you role 1v1 ....what that u cant ahhhh

turd

[Lusc]

This lan needs more DOTA

[spicypixel]

Company of Heroes...

[ciderrulezthewd]

Only reason i havent been to the i series yet is no company of heroes tourny so my vote is going COH all the way,or maybe the real reason is everyone is to scared to play me and dwarfy! i promise we will give you a chance,honest.

[[TRS]Scotteh]

SupCom FA and CoH :)

[ciderrulezthewd]

SupCom FA and CoH :)

tut tut u slag

[Doomsday22]

risk ftw!

[samsbase]

I vote for the WCG RTSes but especially C&C3:Kane's wrath, there was never an RTS (excepte SC2) that has been more tailored towards tournament play. (And it rocks at it)

[DjArcas]

I vote SupCom, my only worry is getting more than 3 or 4 games in over the course of the lan. ;)

[Baldrick]

C&C3: Kane's Wrath

[bigjoe_uk]

SupCom FA and CoH
starcraft2 also if its out in time

[GotenXiao]

Total Annihilation. With Core Contingency + Battle Tactics.

[Deman]

SupCom:FA 1v1 however if StarCraft 2 is out by then you'd be daft to pass it up. However, early tourney announcements are key and the current CoD4 and CSS choices have gone down well already :)

ps. Is CnC3 not already having a tourney for WCG?

[[TRS]Beno]

with the latest 2.3 patch for CoH it has to be this game for i34

with the addition of Arranged Teams it will start to Really take off from a competive side of things

CoH FTW :)

Rubbish Dwarfy....Supcom rules.....

I only say this cause i'm even more pants at CoH :D::D:

[MorgyN]

1v1supcom \o/

[WaKKo-]

SC:FA, WIC and DOTA

[Teseer]

SupCom FA > All

[Col. Jessep]

SupCom: Forged Alliance

There is no better choice for RTS! And Demans casts and QuadV.com FTW!

[Kyro]

Forged Alliance is the only real RTS...

if dota is a RTS, then SimCity is a FPS... lol

[-Wesker-]

100% Signed. Certainly Forged Alliance.
Its the only "real" RTS

[JeRkY]

Cannon Fodder!

[Chakuchu]

SupCom FA is the worst and at the same time the best Real-time-Strategy Game.

Why? Because its the only RTS-Game at the moment. Everything else in the so called RTS Genre is actually Real-time-tactic!

[Dogbertuk]

Its not the only real rts.

And dota is the cs of the rts world.

[Dragonfire]

Supreme Commander is the best !!!

[DarkLegion]

Best of the best ... Supreme Commander !

[kandy]

C&C actually worked really well and was great fun to watch

I change my vote to:

1) WiC
2) Kanes Wrath
3) Supcom/SC2

Also I don't think the omg supcom pros are coming to i34? (Sir_Loui etc.)

[shteou]

Umpa lumpa umpity SupCom!
Anybody votes otherwise, will be beat on!

[Dwarfy]

i think loui and Djinn are going cose loui asked me before i went if i was going to i34, got alot of respect for them, they took the time out to show my old man how to play sup com and he had never played it before :)

for me its still

1) CoH
2) WiC
3) Sup com

[Devvy]

Starcraft is clearly the man's game.

[Dogbertuk]

1.Coh
2.Sup com
3.cnc3 only cos it will be paid for by ea and its in wcg.

Dota if only i got my way.

[siteslammer]

C&C actually worked really well and was great fun to watch

I change my vote to:

1) WiC
2) Kanes Wrath
3) Supcom/SC2

Also I don't think the omg supcom pros are coming to i34? (Sir_Loui etc.)

Djinn will be there 100% sure, for loui it depends on something personal but if he can he will be there again.
Our sponser will make sure we are all there again to compete :)

[KaoS|eXtreme]

1) CNC3
2) World in Conflict
3) Supcom/SC2

[kandy]

Djinn will be there 100% sure, for loui it depends on something personal but if he can he will be there again.


Heh cool, i was well happy being sat in a small room with supcom players all weekend.... it was literally 24/7 :D

[Dogbertuk]

As much as i like wic its been at multiplay for 2 lans now and only ever got 3 teams each time. Whats the point in votein for it if people wont play it.

[Dwarfy]

As much as i like wic its been at multiplay for 2 lans now and only ever got 3 teams each time. Whats the point in votein for it if people wont play it.

as much as i hate to agree with Dogbert :p he is 100% right

WiC is an awesome game but people just dont play it anymore, time to get a few other games a chance to get a look in at the iseries

[009]

SupCom FA ftw!!!

[Dogbertuk]

I say you kick sup com out for cheating.

[009]

SupCom FA is just the best RTS. ;)

[Dogbertuk]

Well thats far from true anyhow no need in being tits about the voteing.

[lewchenko]

After looking at a few of the RTS games available at I33, I have to say I thought the Supreme Commander FA games were the most fun and interesting.

The zoom of these games allows for much better spectating than the like of the claustrophobic C&C games.

So am looking forward to more Supreme Commander at i34.

[Dogbertuk]

Were you at i33.

[Dwarfy]

i take it seeing that Sup com is 2v2 and if CoH is chosen that would also be 2v2?

Team games are more fun to watch and to play than 1v1, 1 mistake and your screwed, team mates can bail you out :D

[ciderrulezthewd]

After looking at a few of the RTS games available at I33, I have to say I thought the Supreme Commander FA games were the most fun and interesting.

The zoom of these games allows for much better spectating than the like of the claustrophobic C&C games.

So am looking forward to more Supreme Commander at i34.

The definition of fun is a 2 vs 2 coh game and watching those 105s fire ,there is no satisfaction like a couple of 105s going off and hitting the target.

[ciderrulezthewd]

Umpa lumpa umpity SupCom!
Anybody votes otherwise, will be beat on!

i voted coh ,so bring it on,im waiting

[ciderrulezthewd]

i take it seeing that Sup com is 2v2 and if CoH is chosen that would also be 2v2?

Team games are more fun to watch and to play than 1v1, 1 mistake and your screwed, team mates can bail you out :D

yeah i will agree mate on the team side of things 1 vs 1 will have more axis players or allied and could be a problem pairing ppl up ,2 vs 2 sounds good much more friendly to switch sides.i do hope coh is played at i34, soon as i here it is il pay up until then you can kiss my 105

[Cola_Colin]

Supreme Commander.
It's the only game which is really great :D

[ez64]

love the sharing resources to bail out your team mate if they break there economy, great game.

[KBB]

Where's the option for Multiplayer Theme Hospital...?!

[Chicane]

clealy a ron tourney is needed

[Baldrick]

Where's the option for Multiplayer Theme Hospital...?!

Need to find my discs , I used to play on LAN against my mum when I was c.8 years old :D

[aD-roXx]

dota FTW! would be great to have a dota tourney with proper cash prizes .. :)

[bindip]

WiC !

[Fusion_Tom]

I would think if we are doing Kane's Wrath for PC, it should be 2v2, more ppl playing and it would show team work within the clans. :cooler:

[deathrow]

personally for me it has to be world in conflict, as a FPS player iv never really found any rts interesting to play at all despite trying the majority of them however after watching world in conflict live @ lan it is such a great tactical game very intresting to watch very intense as games can go to the last 20 seconds it was really a great thing to watch so i really reccomend WIC

[Shazz]

WIC would pull a crowd, if it had the money...

I mean, we got more at CLUK for 2nd place than the winners did at i33.

[Stoned_Kermit]

SupCom Fa of course

a great tactical RTS

kind regards Kermit

[bindip]

WIC would pull a crowd, if it had the money...

I mean, we got more at CLUK for 2nd place than the winners did at i33.
i agree with the Shazz, we came first at cluk19 and we had a nice crowd behind us. WiC is good to watch.

[Dogbertuk]

I would say world in conflict is the better game to watch out of all of these with coh coming a close 2nd.


But like i said before its had 2 ilans now and only 3 teams have played.
Dignitas killed wic at ilans.

[siteslammer]

I would say world in conflict is the better game to watch out of all of these with coh coming a close 2nd.


But like i said before its had 2 ilans now and only 3 teams have played.
Dignitas killed wic at ilans.

Doggy you din't kill the game you nuked it to death :p

[jammyb]

Would love to see World in Conflict

I had fun at the last central lan when me and my team won the tourny there and I'd love to have a go at i34

Nice 20minute games
Straight into the action
Very tactical
and nukes :P

yayyy for WiC

[Limebloom]

WiC for teh WIN!

[blx]

A wic 5on5 tournament would be nice.

[siteslammer]

I like all this people voting for WIC but when it comes to the lan they won't play it cos there all scared of Diginitas.
We had 3 teams in the last two tourneys so i fail to see the point to run another wic tourney even tough i like the game.
Supcom/CoH much better choiches

[mattbee1989]

World in Conflict!!!!! yesyes!!!! awesome game!

[p1RATE]

ive missed 2 chances to play WiC at i series now ^_^. would love to play it at i34

[Predobear]

Moar WiC, I say!

Would be nice to pull off my silly out-dated Sun Tzu tactics off for once. 'Tis a shame that the nuclear bomb says no. :v

[[TRS]Scotteh]

I find it hilarious that people are voting for WiC when barely anyone has entered the tournament each time it's been done. Our clan has been in it from the fun Alpha tournament then at both i32 and i33 where we came 3rd (or 4th can't remember) and runners up this time.

Seriously....pick a game you at least intend to enter if your going to vote for it :roll:

[Closing-Gap]

Obviously Company of Heroes; Bombs go BOOOOOOMMM! and then... the soldier's limbs go flying.

[Narella]

Warcraft III.

I will keep saying this.

BOTA tournament.

[kandy]

I find it hilarious that people are voting for WiC when barely anyone has entered the tournament each time it's been done.

The problem is its never been run as a main tournament, the first time it was sponsored literally a week before the event opened and at i33 it was one of the few tournaments that didn't have a prize fund.

I would imagine CoH would be exactly the same unless there was a decent prize put up well in advance, also games like this just don't work when there are so many (12+) other tournaments running. It would need to be one of few tournaments running to get a decent amount of teams entered, the dignitas argument could be removed also by spreading the prize money out to give more to 2nd and 3rd place than usual.

[[TRS]Scotteh]

I would assume it didn't have a large prize fund at i33 because there wasn't much interest for it at i32 when the fund was larger. The fact still remains that when it's been run people haven't entered. There are so many other tournaments running which doesn't help as you said, money would be better spent in my opinion being put into say 5 tournaments instead of being spread out. The problem with that is when the likes of EA want to sponsor a game like Crysis and put up money for that specifically, but how many big teams are going to enter a game that isn't really big on the multiplayer side yet?

Mutliplay are going to take any money offered for tournaments and sometimes they don't get a say in what that money is put up for. This is why games like WiC will never have lots of big teams entering because the money simply isn't there for it, but I don't see how that stops people entering and enjoying themselves anyway?

We were never going to win the WiC tournament with the likes of Dignitas in it, but we enjoy playing it. If people are only going to enter a tournament when theres big money then the vast majority of tournaments at the i-Series will never get many teams. WiC has had 3 tournaments and people haven't entered, this is why I'm saying it's amusing when people have voted for it, where were they at the previous tournaments? It had a lesser prize fund this time because they didn't enter at i32.


People can't expect to not enter tournaments which are trying to get a footing at one i-Series then expect it to all of a sudden have a big prize fund at the next? Common sense should tell you that....

[Deman]

Like Dogbert said Dignitas killed WiC :P

The problem is if money goes to a WiC Tourney Dignitas WiC will play and win, consequently everyone else thinks, no point playing and we are back to 3 teams entering again.

SupCom has almost that problem with Sir_Loui, however should money go to it early instead of I don't know, say £2500 going to a game so full of bugs a tournament wasn't possible for it then you'd get some more top players attend for a 1v1 event, maybe even 2v2. While Loui is dominant, he is far from invicible.

Re: WCG I assume CnC3 will be selected, UK WCG would be insane not to as Apollooo is the current world champion and its a potential Gold again for us. Will Starcraft also be picked in WCG? Not sure we can compete on any level with Korea in that.

CoH deserves a tourney maybe as it really is a nice looking game that plays well, no clue how much community pro players there are but im sure theres a lot that play/have played/willing to play it in a tourney compared to the others listed. However CoH follows the same path of SupCom with getting Blood from a Stone from its Publisher.

[CommandoXXX]

WiC, definitely. And preferably a 5v5 WiC Tournament (though I may regret saying that as ours only has 3 players so far...)

[Dogbertuk]

Would u play wic if u knew maybe u could only come 3rd?

[[TRS]Scotteh]

Would u play wic if u knew maybe u could only come 3rd?

I don't know about you lot, but I play for fun. I played competitively in the Quake 3 scene many years ago now lol and in my opinion there isn't a lot of money involved in team tournaments anyway. If you want to make it serious, go solo, but that's my view. Playing is the fun for me and a lot of my friends/clan, especially now we're older....I mean seriously, who goes around wearing Fez's all weekend if your serious? lol.

If we come third, second or whatever, it's a bonus :)

Obviously professional teams play to win and play for the money, but there just isn't the vast amounts of money needed for very serious competition. After a pro team wins first, that money is then put back in, players get some, rest is split amongst the clan sometimes, goes in a pot etc. When the first prize is only £1000 your not going to see big teams coming from overseas a lot.

People should just play for fun, your never going to beat the pro teams that do turn up but there's nothing stopping you entering, enjoying yourself and having fun along the way.

That's my view anyway, I'm sure a lot of others will think different but every event I've been to I've seen maybe the same 3 or so teams fighting it out for first prize in most competitions......it's not going to change without very big cash prizes so just sign up and enjoy yourselves and maybe in future those tournaments might increase their prize fund :)

[Dogbertuk]

I go to ilans to have fun i dont just go for the money all i was saying is alot of people wont play unless they think they could win.

[[TRS]Scotteh]

Yeah I know what you mean, some people need the money there to play. Wasn't saying people who play for money don't have fun also, but as you said I just think that a lot of people won't enter unless they think they can get something from it.

[Dogbertuk]

Thats very true they wont but i would love to have lots of people playing wic at i34 cos its a great game to play as a team and no rts is as good to watch.

[Gowerly]

StarCraft/StarcraftII and Supcom FA

[TrendyZac]

My vote is for WIC, since it is great viewing and is best suited to 5v5 format.

Prize money would need to be significant (pool of at least £20,000) in order to attract best teams from around the world, and make it a meaningful competetion.

Otherwise, you will only get UK/EU teams attend - with Dignitas the overwhelming favourite.

If your gonna do it - do it big and go with WIC.

[Dogbertuk]

Only £20,000 i wont come unless multiplay pay for £50,000 or £80,000 if they are lucky

[TrendyZac]

wow they would be really lucky to have you come (2 mins in dignitas and your already an international superstar :P)

[OpolE]

Total Anihilation hehe :)

[kandy]

and is best suited to 5v5 format.


Assuming that

1) WiC runs
2) I admin it again

I would be quite keen on 5v5 this time round.

And all the people voting for WiC, why did you not enter the i32/i33 comp!! I would be interested to know.

[Dogbertuk]

Its cos people are making fake names and votein

[siteslammer]

Its cos people are making fake names and votein

I agree

[kandy]

Was a bit suspicious with the amount of mar/apr 08 join dates...

[Dignitas_Moyes]

My vote would be for World in Conflict, but i'm from Dignitas, what else should you expect :)

...and people aren't making fake names, two reasons why that theory should be shot down in flames immediately.

1) Why would anyone apart from Dignitas even bother? (and being the RTS leader of Dignitas I can assure you it hasn't happened).

2) The more obvious reason that there seems to be a few more recent accounts created is that a post was made on the main WiC community website telling people about this website/vote.

So sorry folks, no gunmen behind the grassy knoll this time.

As of the start of this year there were at least 8 teams from continental Europe that would have travelled for a serious World in Conflict event. You shouldn't be surprised that members of these teams and general supporters of World in Conflict are allying themselves with those in the UK who would also like to see it included.

Early information and a reasonable prize fund are essential for any team based game. If both of those happened for World in Conflict, I think a few people here would be quite surprised at how many teams would attend.

[[TRS]MONSTER]

Put up a reasonable prize fund for minesweeper and you would be surprised how many enter too. I would certainly like to see more done on the WiC front but tbh I can't see it ever happening. I events seem to be more of an FPS fest with other games coming a lowly second. Any well supported tourney for an RTS game would be a joy to see and hopefully would be well attended but as Moyes says Early information and a reasonable prize fund are essential for any team based game and he is dead right.
Get the prize fund and info out there early enough and more will want in on it.

[Dwarfy]

early comformation of tournys is essential :)

If WiC, CoH and supcom are chosen i know which 1 ill be playing :p

i just feel that WiC is far to shallow, looks pretty but has no depth at all and gets boring VERY fast and its a shame cose i really do like it :/
We will see though, be nice to have some fresh games to match the new venue :D

[#Wonderdog]

Supcom? Who wants to watch a 5 hours slugfest from high orbit?

WiC is good fun, but repetitive in the extreme. Its so... rock paper scissors. Lovely pretty sparkly casual spectator friendly DX10 rock paper scissors, but still...

CoH 4tw - and you can distribute the replays afterwards, for some serious after match analysis :D

[Dentist]

Yeah cos you cant distribute replays from those 5 hour orbital slugfest matches...

[Closing-Gap]

After thinking about my vote; Company of Heroes would take hours as i use the turtle tactic; use infantry as meat-shields while i blow **** up from affar with Artillery.

[Dwarfy]

After thinking about my vote; Company of Heroes would take hours as i use the turtle tactic; use infantry as meat-shields while i blow **** up from affar with Artillery.


that would not last long against a good player :)

fast m8/AC would tear up your infantry while pushing down, GG right there

besides VP would tick down and you would lose anyway :p

[siteslammer]

Supcom? Who wants to watch a 5 hours slugfest from high orbit?

WiC is good fun, but repetitive in the extreme. Its so... rock paper scissors. Lovely pretty sparkly casual spectator friendly DX10 rock paper scissors, but still...

CoH 4tw - and you can distribute the replays afterwards, for some serious after match analysis :D

Supcom lasting 5 hours you must have never played the game before.
it has an hour time limit anyway and with the good players it won't last longer 20/30 minutes most games

[ciderrulezthewd]

After thinking about my vote; Company of Heroes would take hours as i use the turtle tactic; use infantry as meat-shields while i blow **** up from affar with Artillery.

Victory point on 2 vs 2 the average game time is about 25 mins,if you play half decent players you probably wont get the chance to turtle.

[[TRS]Scotteh]

GG right there is it Mark?.....


What's the betting that whatever wins the votes and is put forward for i34 tournaments, they still will only get a handful of teams entering? lol

[Dwarfy]

tis if you have nothing to counter it lol :p

hopefully what ever is chosen will get plenty of sign ups, we will see though

[The_Claw]

Any RTS game is rock paper scissors.

I went with WiC, whilst people claim it is boring, it only really contains the flaw of not having an effective system of evening up public play teams.

The clan matches are by far the best experiences of the game. Its playability can be seen in the amount of rewards it recieved over new years.

I like mahy of the UK guys that play this game just wish that we had more tournaments with UK times, alotta them out there are US timezone and so it makes it hard to meet the time constraints.

[MuffyD]

i voted C&C but any would be good. could u not do it in teams like a 2v2 or 3v3 map but the allies have to be in the same Clan or team

E.g TLR v Dignatis (only 2 that came to mind)

[Sir_Loui]

Any RTS game is rock paper scissors.

I went with WiC, whilst people claim it is boring, it only really contains the flaw of not having an effective system of evening up public play teams.

The clan matches are by far the best experiences of the game. Its playability can be seen in the amount of rewards it recieved over new years.

I like mahy of the UK guys that play this game just wish that we had more tournaments with UK times, alotta them out there are US timezone and so it makes it hard to meet the time constraints.

Supcom isnt rock paper scissor.

And also in response to wonderdog, the myth that supcom games would last extremely long is just smacktalk -_- in 1v1 most of my games end in 10-20 minutes. In 2v2 most end in 10-25 depending on map... That is pretty normal numbers compared to other games imo

[Dogbertuk]

If we are going to talk times dota could take 1hr or more but its better than all of them still voted for wic supcom and coh.

[CommandoXXX]

Would u play wic if u knew maybe u could only come 3rd?

Yep. My team currently only has 3 people in it, and one of them only bought the game at i33, so I don't rate our chances very highly. That said we did "win" the first iSeries WiC tournament (by losing to Dignitas but taking the longest to lose) so we can't be that bad. :)

And all the people voting for WiC, why did you not enter the i32/i33 comp!! I would be interested to know.

I wanted to, but out of my entire team I was the only person who actually managed to make it to i33. And I didn't think I'd have much chance if I multi-boxed it. ;)

PS: 4v4 FTW

[Dogbertuk]

I dont mean like in a cocky way about coming 3rd i mean that some people dont want to play unless they think they can win or come 2nd.

[siteslammer]

Yep. My team currently only has 3 people in it, and one of them only bought the game at i33, so I don't rate our chances very highly. That said we did "win" the first iSeries WiC tournament (by losing to Dignitas but taking the longest to lose) so we can't be that bad. :)



I wanted to, but out of my entire team I was the only person who actually managed to make it to i33. And I didn't think I'd have much chance if I multi-boxed it. ;)

PS: 4v4 FTW

The only two team that have played in the wic tourney consistant are Dignitas and TRS. i still have no convidence that this will change at I34.

[drproof]

World in Conflict

[eXtAsY]

Hello,

i think the Votes for WiC aren't fakes.
I think the only Reason why a lot of People didn't play World in Conflict at i33 is, because the Prizemoney for European Clans isn't enough. In UK there a not 40 WiC Teams like in Germany.. There is Dignitas and Reason Gaming with an international Line Up. But the other "pro" Teams are in other European Nations.
500£ is a lot of money for Teams from UK. But for other Teams who life not in UK its not enough because you have to pay Flytickets and so on for 500 £. If u made a CounterStrike:Source Tournament with 500 £ the international Top Clans didnt come.. So the same at WiC.

sry for my bad english

[siteslammer]

even at I31 and I32 with sponsership teams still didn't signup so i still feel its pointless.
Cos you wont get the amount of money that the CPL put forward last year for WIC anywhere now.
and they will even moan that there isn't enough money when the winner get like a £1000+

[Big Giant Head]

At the end of the day the i-series is a UK lan and if there isn't a UK scene significant enough to provide more than a couple of clans with no prize money, then why should the game be supported with loads of sponsorship to get loads of European clans in?

Or am I just missing the point?

[ciderrulezthewd]

At the end of the day the i-series is a UK lan and if there isn't a UK scene significant enough to provide more than a couple of clans with no prize money, then why should the game be supported with loads of sponsorship to get loads of European clans in?

Or am I just missing the point?

You want a uk scene ,u have one,TRS(LAST) coh clan 2 vs 2,we were the top 2 players in 2 vs 2 ranked for 3 months,we are part of LAST one of the top coh clans.you want a scene i will guarantee TRS will put up at least 8 players for a coh event.2 vs 2 bring it on ,we have the minerals,do you?

[Dogbertuk]

Very good now noone will play coh at i34.

You nugget.

[Mephisto]

Gogo World in Conflict :)!

I think some German Teams have chances to get to i34 for WiC, so i hope it'll be played.

[DrAlban]

Gogo World in Conflict :)!

I think some German Teams have chances to get to i34 for WiC, so i hope it'll be played.


If the prize money will be okay i think so to ^^
Please make a WiC Tournament interesting for german Teams!

[ciderrulezthewd]

Very good now noone will play coh at i34.

You nugget.

Well obviously you wont be playing then,when i said top 2 vs 2 that was for the first 3 months of the game,at the moment we are unranked .I here this morning last clan has finished so kinda funny really.

[Dwarfy]

dogbert, your the nubster every1 knows that:p ill get a few games up this weekend if you fancy it, not had a chance lately :(

[Dogbertuk]

well good thing your modest.

[Zolad]

World in Conflict!

[starforce]

World in Conflict 5on5 !

[siteslammer]

i like this when all people signup to vote for wic but coming I34 they won't come or either won't play.

[Dwarfy]

aye

i32 and i33 were the same :/

[blx]

yeah because the most teams want to play 5on5 not 4on4 !


WiC 5on5 Tournament and more clans are coming !

[Dogbertuk]

Everyone does understand this will be a tier format say we get 10 to 20 teams its will be £350 prize.

[siteslammer]

Everyone does understand this will be a tier format say we get 10 to 20 teams its will be £350 prize.

I don't think they do tbh.

[WatchNLearnWIC]

I have signed up to these forums to vote in this poll to show my support for World in Conflict. With CPL over for it, the World in Conflict competitive arena looks depressingly bleak.

World in Conflict is an excellent competitive game and deserves a lot of attention, it seems to be a fairly quiet achiever, though.

2v2FPM or 5v5 sounds good for WiC.

[kandy]

Everyone does understand this will be a tier format say we get 10 to 20 teams its will be £350 prize.

Said who?

I would wait to see whats announced before taking a guess :p

[IceCold]

world in conflict ftw :D

[n1mp]

World in Conflict, but only 5on5

[Indyboy]

World in Conflict :awesome:

[Dogbertuk]

Well true but the guess is based on every multiplay lan i have been to.

[kandy]

i32 there wasn't a tier for wic, you should know you won it :p

[Dogbertuk]

Yeah i know these were paid for by people outside of multiplay.
Multiplay have only played for cod4 and css i think.

[[TRS]Scotteh]

Why bother signing up to vote even if your not coming? Showing your support for a game is fine, but when your not even going to be there and are just voting because it's been posted on a WiC forum isn't the best thing to do now is it. Those of us who actually enter the tournaments want to play a game that's going to get people actually entering, not phantom voters who just want it "represented".


Fact: Barely anyone has signed up for any WiC tournament in the past from those who actually ATTEND. Let it go....you had your chance to have your say when it was on at i32 and i33. Voting simply because it's been posted on a forum clearly isn't going to help the tournament is it.

[Elkeeed]

It sucks that someone has gone to a WIC forum to drum up support. Before this Supcom and Company of Heroes were the clear leaders.

I have been in the WIC tourney before and there were only 4 teams signed up including dignitas A & B! There really is no point in voting for WIC if you arn't intending to enter the tournament and most people seem to be bored with it already.

I would really like to see one for Company of Heroes because it is a very entertaining game and seems to have been missed out in the past. The recent patches really balance up the game.

[Dogbertuk]

true

[Dwarfy]

It sucks that someone has gone to a WIC forum to drum up support. Before this Supcom and Company of Heroes were the clear leaders.

I have been in the WIC tourney before and there were only 4 teams signed up including dignitas A & B! There really is no point in voting for WIC if you arn't intending to enter the tournament and most people seem to be bored with it already.

I would really like to see one for Company of Heroes because it is a very entertaining game and seems to have been missed out in the past. The recent patches really balance up the game.

100% agree

recent changes to CoH has made a great game even better

its awesome to watch, easy to understand, perfect contender for a tourny game.

[kandy]

It sucks that someone has gone to a WIC forum to drum up support.

Erm, its called promoting the tournament so that more people know about it, and will hopefully come to it. Isn't that what you wanted?? :confused:

I don't think anyone would complain if you tried to drum up support in the CoH / Supcom etc. community either, the more people that know about it the better the (potential) tournament will be.

[Elkeeed]

Well that is fine IF they intend to come, if they are just skewing the vote so we miss out on something people actually want to play then its not so good.

[[TRS]Scotteh]

Erm, its called promoting the tournament so that more people know about it, and will hopefully come to it. Isn't that what you wanted?? :confused:

I don't think anyone would complain if you tried to drum up support in the CoH / Supcom etc. community either, the more people that know about it the better the (potential) tournament will be.


I wouldn't appreciate anyone drumming up support among people who aren't going to attend...what's the point?

People who attend want to vote so that it gives a clearer picture of what games people want to see. Instead we now have loads of signups and votes from people who AREN'T attending and even if 1 or 2 decide to attend we won't see any big overseas clans turning up due to the prize fund as already mentioned.

Stop trying to plug a game that isn't going to get the entrants from people who are actually going to be there. I don't hate WiC, I love it and my clan has been in every tournament for it at the i-Series. However it isn't going anywhere tournament wise, twice it's been done as a main tournament and twice barely anyone has entered, where was your "support" then?

Try not being morons and realise that people who go want to give something else a try, regardless of how many signups/votes you manage to squeeze out of posting it on various forums we all know 95% or more of those won't attend i34.

[bombenleger]

....

i 33 was 4on4 WiC with no prize money, no chance you get some people from oversea to this cup...

just get the money up for the tourney and announce it early enough then the gamer's will come.

how some people can whine about games they never played and can imagine how good it could be if everything is done right :) but go on and cry i 34 a river

[[TRS]Scotteh]

....

i 33 was 4on4 WiC with no prize money, no chance you get some people from oversea to this cup...

just get the money up for the tourney and announce it early enough then the gamer's will come.

how some people can whine about games they never played and can imagine how good it could be if everything is done right :) but go on and cry i 34 a river

Here is another example as to why WiC will never get a lot of entries, someone who thinks a company will put up lots of money for a tournament they have run twice and has had little interest both times.

Yes we know it's money, but as with everything money doesn't grow on trees and if they are going to put up a lot of money it will be for something that gains a lot of interest which this poll SHOULD of helped to show.....what people want to actually play when they ATTEND.

Use your common sense.....

[Deman]

If this is all about "promoting" the game someone go post on starcraft forums and you'll have 20,000 votes flood in no problem.

However its not realistic since those 20,000 will not be coming will they.

ps. nearly 900 places already sold, best get announcing those tournaments soon or it will be too late for teams to come...again.

[Dwarfy]

i33 had no prize fund for WiC?

were u even there? i was and we got some cash for 2nd place...:/

[kandy]

The i33 prize was a last minute addition due to ipower.

[Leviathan]

StarCraft BroodWar, the only real RTS game out there. Need to have prize fund and can get europes finest over to play. Or at least I hope there will be WCG qualifiers there.

[Dogbertuk]

Its not the only real rts so go away.

[Shazz]

CoH > *

[Dwarfy]

StarCraft BroodWar, the only real RTS game out there. Need to have prize fund and can get europes finest over to play. Or at least I hope there will be WCG qualifiers there.


tbh with the release of SC2 soon i dont think this would happen :/

[[TRS]Primesnake]

i like this when all people signup to vote for wic but coming I34 they won't come or either won't play.

What like Turner? hahaha

I recon Dignitas wouldnt win the next i-series, not if someone from Bradford removed a couple of their fingers with some pliers....

WiC is like a cheap hamburger with compared to the Steak that is SupcomFA

Supcom FTW

[CommandoXXX]

Personally I much prefer 5v5 for WiC. 5v5 means there's variation in your opponents, they won't always be the same combination of roles that you get in 4v4, which means you need to adapt.

That said I have enough problems fielding a 4v4 team due to lack of players - making it 5v5 would unfortunately make it even less likely that I get to play. For that selfish reason alone I'm going to say I'd prefer the tournament to be 4v4. :P

[bombenleger]

for i 33 there was the tier system, and sry but that system is NOT intresseting for international clubs.

i 33 was not made for wic, but now it seems the i Lan series want to focuse only on a small amount of games wich will be played on a pro lvl...

i read some heart breaking shoutouts, but you have to realize that people vote here just coz they want something to do for thier lovely games...
so, now im looking on the post with

"If this is all about "promoting" the game someone go post on starcraft forums and you'll have 20,000 votes flood in no problem.

However its not realistic since those 20,000 will not be coming will they.

ps. nearly 900 places already sold, best get announcing those tournaments soon or it will be too late for teams to come...again."
DONT TALK BUT DO IT kid, i want to see how much the starcraft player will support you and your i34 and the rest of it, you blew just hot air in the discussion about what YOU can do.

if you want to get rid of wic, first of all you should try to break our mentality.

[siteslammer]

for i 33 there was the tier system, and sry but that system is NOT intresseting for international clubs.

i 33 was not made for wic, but now it seems the i Lan series want to focuse only on a small amount of games wich will be played on a pro lvl...

i read some heart breaking shoutouts, but you have to realize that people vote here just coz they want something to do for thier lovely games...
so, now im looking on the post with

"If this is all about "promoting" the game someone go post on starcraft forums and you'll have 20,000 votes flood in no problem.

However its not realistic since those 20,000 will not be coming will they.

ps. nearly 900 places already sold, best get announcing those tournaments soon or it will be too late for teams to come...again."
DONT TALK BUT DO IT kid, i want to see how much the starcraft player will support you and your i34 and the rest of it, you blew just hot air in the discussion about what YOU can do.

if you want to get rid of wic, first of all you should try to break our mentality.

I don't think you been to an i-series before but at I31 and I32 the WIC touney was sponsered and still nobody cared to signup expect the usuall teams that do.
Cos even if you get sponsership it won't be at the lvl of Cod4 or CSS so the foreign teams still moan that they can't win enough and won't come so why not give something else ago.

[kandy]

I don't think you been to an i-series before but at I31 and I32 the WIC touney was sponsered and still nobody cared to signup expect the usuall teams that do.

i32 was a sponsored tournament, it was sponsored literally a week before the event AFTER it had sold out.

i33 was sponsored by Packard Bell literally the EVENING before the tournament started.

They do have a very valid point, if a tournament was announced well in advance at least people would get a chance to know about it and attend, and the interest could be judged to a reasonably fair degree. It would also give us a chance to promote it to the WiC community well in advance.

Plus the last two events WiC has clashed with all the other tournaments.

[bombenleger]

and wic cant be really compared with basic RTS games like war3/sc2/coh etc, i really dont care if you guys want to bang your heads coz wic is in my oppinion RTT means no base building and a 5vs5 tourney.

so, simply this category IS NO competion for the other games, sry to say your guys the truth.

in the case of 1vs1, 2vs2 RTS games war3/sc2/coh have to fight for space ;)

and no, the i-series before, were not sponsored and promoted international... at least not enough and not without this crap tier system, where its based on luck how much clans will attend to grap enough money, if you have to spend almost 1000€ for the whole travel

i think i-series is not looking for satisfying a small amount of players in a national scene, thats why maybe the other bunch of games were kicked out. For my part i think it was a wise decision, but now i 34 must show how strong the feets are on wich the whole project is standing on...

[Dwarfy]

in all fairness WiC was given two chances at the iseres....both times no one bothered

let the game rest because lets face it who even plays the game any more? Dignitas dont bother so what makes you think that other top teams could even be bothered to fly in for a tourny?

Give the space to a game that deserves it, WiC just isnt that game :/

[kandy]

It's only been out just over 6 months....

[Dogbertuk]

To be fair i think its going to be supcom wic and coh.

[Elkeeed]

Its so simplistic though, it could really do with a ton more maps.

[bombenleger]

in all fairness WiC was given two chances at the iseres....both times no one bothered

let the game rest because lets face it who even plays the game any more? Dignitas dont bother so what makes you think that other top teams could even be bothered to fly in for a tourny?

Give the space to a game that deserves it, WiC just isnt that game :/

a mass of reasons were named in the post's before :)

[Elkeeed]

What I am wondering is why people are trying to force a WiC tourny to work when it has failed in the past and is a game that people are losing interest in when there are other games that never got a tournament that might be far more popular.

On face value this thread was to give people what they wanted and to drum up some interest for the lan from the rts community but it seems to have turned into a crusade to save WiC.

[Dogbertuk]

I would love a wic tournament at i34 but if its just going to be 3 teams whats the point.

[Shazz]

WiC just isnt popular in the UK anymore.

The Iseries is at present, largely a UK lan.

No point in wic.

[[TRS]Scotteh]

This Poll should just have WiC removed, stop all the crusaders from no where voting and posting over something they aren't even going to attend. It's so pathetic when people feel they need to go and post on other forums just to get votes.....

[Boffykins]

Poll closed. We'll be announcing the remaining tournaments soon.

[bombenleger]

What I am wondering is why people are trying to force a WiC tourny to work when it has failed in the past and is a game that people are losing interest in when there are other games that never got a tournament that might be far more popular.

On face value this thread was to give people what they wanted and to drum up some interest for the lan from the rts community but it seems to have turned into a crusade to save WiC.

erm, its switched you guys doesnt have enough votes, NOT WIC so dont blame wic just for getting more votes... let me explain it like this, more people want wic? :D

[[TRS]Scotteh]

erm, its switched you guys doesnt have enough votes, NOT WIC so dont blame wic just for getting more votes... let me explain it like this, more people want wic? :D

Cretin

[kandy]

It's so pathetic when people feel they need to go and post on other forums just to get votes.....

Guess you haven't seen the ingame news / events screen when you log into the game then :D

[p1RATE]

tbh if u hate wic that much dont play it... i prersonaly think it is a better option than dota but whatever. even without the extra interest wic was top 3, and hopefully this will help to promote it and get a lot more teams enter this time around. i know i will be entering if i get the chance which i havent for previouse events.

[Dogbertuk]

Dota is the best game on the list but it needs 5 in a team to make it go and we wont get the numbers thats about it.

[aD-roXx]

well yea. Dota is a growing really fast among the UK community. Dota.uk at irc and forums are really showing it. would be great if there's a lan to support the growing community :)

[Dux0r]

There was a dota tournament before a while ago.. iirc one team wiped the floor with everyone else.. who was that again? :D::D::D:

[Shazz]

There was a dota tournament before a while ago.. iirc one team wiped the floor with everyone else.. who was that again? :D::D::D:

Was that before or after the prize money got withdrawn? :p:

[leeves]

DotA And How!!

[fishmongeruk]

give cnc3 or sup commander tbh hell even dow! :D

[ciderrulezthewd]

I just hope finally COh will be there as a tourny.

[Dignitas_Moyes]

I would say people are no longer being objective in this thread, but I don't think people even started in that frame of mind. Thank goodness for Kandy, the only person that seems to be keeping some sound perspective in this discussion.

First the claim was that a few people were creating multiple accounts to vote for WiC, when this was proved totally wrong a fresh attack was made on the low number of signups in the previous 'sponsored' events.

Kandy quite rightly pointed out that these were announced less than a week/day before a sold out event was due to start! P.s. You can't even begin to consider I33 as having a genuine prize fund for a 4 Vs 4 tournament.

The reasons why a WiC tournament would either succeed or fail have nothing to do with what anyone has said so far. Those people who are saying it is doomed to fail are in fact suggesting Multiplay would cock it up!

If Multiplay makes the prize fund decent (i.e. takes into consideration that WiC is a large team based game), announces the event early enough (again organising a dedicated team of 4 or 5 people doesn't just happen overnight), I believe the tournament could well shine.

If these things can't happen I would be the first one to say don't run a WiC event! Put more effort into those competitions that have smaller teams (i.e. 2 people) where a smaller prize fund still counts for something. If you run a WiC event with a small prize fund/late announcement you are simply dooming it to failure and providing anecdotal evidence of the worst kind (similar to that used in this thread) for people to attack a possible decent attempt later on.

None of us know what tournament scale Multiplay is working towards and until we do, a public show of support (through votes) is entirely justified. Only the worst town idiot would actually make a final decision about I34 tournaments based purely on this public vote and I would suggest everyone shows a little more confidence in the people at Multiplay to be able to interpret these numbers in the wider context of their own plans!

[Dwarfy]

its got nothing to do with the fact that multiplay would/wouldnt mess a WiC or any tourny up

your telling me that its worth having WiC tourny again even though 3 teams signed up for the last tourny? People just dont play WiC like they used to, tbh the game died a long time ago. Dont get me wrong i like WiC but its just stone paper sissor, dont require any micro at all to play and get boring very fast.

give another game a chance and drop Wic

[Elkeeed]

I don't know if you were following this thread all along or just came to it but WiC was lagging behind until it was advertised and then the votes jumped right up to far ahead of the others overnight. Thats why people were complaining. I very much doubt that there will be 62 players signed up for WiC at i34.

If the point was to see what people wanted to play then the vote has been spoiled. If the point was to drum up interest for tourneys then why not advertise the other likely candidates too?

[p1RATE]

actualy it was sitting nicely in 2/3 place next to coh with sup com leading for the first few days of the poll going up, so it was definatly not "lagging behind".

some of these posts are starting to sound a bit repetive aswell :P give it a rest!

[[TRS]Scotteh]

It was behind both SupCom and CoH by a fair number of votes.

As Elkeed said the poll was spoiled a long time ago, sadly....some people will never give up and will keep banging on about the game.

[Jessop]

CoH is imho the most realistic game and i enjoy it alot tbh..

Sup Com cames last forever so unless you have 6 weeks to play a tournament , it wont get my vote :P

CnC3 is very tournament based and games dont last very long, they're also very competetive imho... if you're playing somebody good, its very difficult to actually win, whereas with some other games you can get lucky ;p

My opinion of course..

Im sure people with go with the majority of the money / prize tournament games though so doesnt really matter what i say lol.

RTS imho will never be as 'big' in terms of prizes or popularity than FPS games.. which is dissapointing imho :(

[Dogbertuk]

Most of what you have said is far from true.

[Jessop]

My opinion of course..

As i said ;)

Most people i know who play games are obsessed with FPS games in a 'competetive' sense, whereas people i know who play RTS games just play them for the daft crack and a bit of enjoyment, do single player campaigns etc.

[Dentist]

Sup Com cames last forever so unless you have 6 weeks to play a tournament , it wont get my vote :P

Thats why we've had successful tournaments at i-series 3 lans on the trot? :)

[Jessop]

never been to one before :P

The last LAN i went to we had a crack at sup com and it lasted something like 2 hours or something..
at which point a load of units came over, fcuked my commander and my game was over lol..

Its a brilliant game, but in my opinion not the greatest RTS LAN game.
I played TA back in the day also, sucked at that and got owned. =[

[Dentist]

Yeah i'll agree with you that games where its two inexperienced players playing oneanother do take quite a long time, but matches between the top players are usually over fairly quickly.

[kandy]

If Multiplay makes the prize fund decent (i.e. takes into consideration that WiC is a large team based game), announces the event early enough (again organising a dedicated team of 4 or 5 people doesn't just happen overnight), I believe the tournament could well shine.

If these things can't happen I would be the first one to say don't run a WiC event!

This, well said.

[Dogbertuk]

I understand its your opinion and i dont mean to upset u but rts are bigger than fps in alot of places and cnc3 sucks.

[Jessop]

i34 will be my first i-Series LAN.. i shall look forward to seeing a SupCom 'pro' match in that case :P

I may yet stand corrected =] lol

I was merely putting my opinion across.

Im just enjoying playing CoH at present. Superb game.. coolg raphics etc. quite a challenge as you need specific units to kill specific things etc ;p

[Dwarfy]

CoH all the way

:D

WiC is easy to learn, Coh and supcom are not, reward them by giving them a tourny :)

[Dogbertuk]

RTS games have more money in them than anyother esport game.

And cnc3 sucks

[#Wonderdog]

I don't see the appeal in a large team WiC tournament anyway - the prize money isnt going to split to well anyway between 5.

A better plan is to play a 2 vs 2 or 3 vs 3 tourney in CoH or similair.

#Wonderdog

[Dogbertuk]

1v1 coh :)

[Dwarfy]

2v2 CoH all the way

bigger maps, bigger battles, bigger explosions, more units

:D :D

[The_Claw]

If you believe WiC didn't have micro management then you aren't playing as good as some players. Micro managing battles on different sides of the map, whilst avoiding ta strikes, whilst looking out for drops on your points, whilst trying to cover your buddies is no easy task.

try playing mixed air in a clan match against a good team and see how far you get without micromanagement.


WiC is easy to learn, Coh and supcom are not, reward them by giving them a tourny :)


I disagree, in RTS's like CoH and Supcom you will see a lot less stratergies being implemented than during a WiC map. Base building, which in my opinion is nothing more than a mere grind, limits you in your ability to adapt your tactics to the battlefield meaning the match tactics are rigid. In world in conflict you can constantly change tactics and the like, making it more fast paced and making the action more dramatic. Because in World in Conflict its not a case of "He built his power stations first now I'm being rushed the end", its 100% battle action from start to finish

[Dentist]

I disagree, in RTS's like CoH and Supcom you will see a lot less stratergies being implemented than during a WiC map.

Bull**** :P Go watch a game of supcom and then come back and comment. From someone whos played all 3 games competatively, supcom by far has the most strategy.

[Shazz]

Bull**** :P Go watch a game of supcom and then come back and comment. From someone whos played all 3 games competatively, supcom by far has the most strategy.

All ur base are belong to mein level 2 tanks?

[Dwarfy]

If you believe WiC didn't have micro management then you aren't playing as good as some players. Micro managing battles on different sides of the map, whilst avoiding ta strikes, whilst looking out for drops on your points, whilst trying to cover your buddies is no easy task.

try playing mixed air in a clan match against a good team and see how far you get without micromanagement.




I disagree, in RTS's like CoH and Supcom you will see a lot less stratergies being implemented than during a WiC map. Base building, which in my opinion is nothing more than a mere grind, limits you in your ability to adapt your tactics to the battlefield meaning the match tactics are rigid. In world in conflict you can constantly change tactics and the like, making it more fast paced and making the action more dramatic. Because in World in Conflict its not a case of "He built his power stations first now I'm being rushed the end", its 100% battle action from start to finish

your telling me than avoiding TA takes more skill than using heavy cover and different units to flank a MG in a building in CoH? Buttoning tanks then getting round the back to hit the rear armour which is weaker.
Knowing when to tech up and when to back tech to certain units to counter certain units, that proves you have no knowledge of RTS's and micro/macro at all

WiC has NO micro at all, you have heavy choppers, ill kill them with AA, you have AA ill kill them with tanks etc etc

what planet are u on?

[[TRS]Scotteh]

Dwarfy, the ever diplomatic hero hahaha

[ciderrulezthewd]

1v1 coh :)

Now why would you want to play 1 vs 1 mmmm ,oh yeah cus dwarfy got an ass kicking lol ,so i been told.

[kandy]

I really don't see the point in comparing WiC to CoH, they are two completely different games.

Also this thread was to gauge interest in tournaments not turn into a "my game is better than yours" slagging match so please try keep it that way :)

[siteslammer]

yeah but with all the WIC fannyboys that signed up to vote and will never come to an I event it kinda lost that purpose in my opion.
I like WIC but it served its time in my opnion.

[The_Claw]

your telling me than avoiding TA takes more skill than using heavy cover and different units to flank a MG in a building in CoH? Buttoning tanks then getting round the back to hit the rear armour which is weaker.

If you dont hide tanks and AA behind treelines and buildings (naturaul and manmade defensive points) you are a dumbass. If you don't use flanking manouvres, if you dont assign multiple unit groups so you have a nice spread over a map so that you can fight for as many points as you can you are also a dumbass.

If you believe fighting in multiple places at the same time does not involve micro management, as well as concentrating on multiple aspects of the battle that are nothing to do with you, you are a dumbass.


Knowing when to tech up and when to back tech to certain units to counter certain units, that proves you have no knowledge of RTS's and micro/macro at all

If you don't constantly have to delete units to switch them out so you constantly have the countreractive units you are a dumbass.

WiC has NO micro at all, you have heavy choppers, ill kill them with AA, you have AA ill kill them with tanks etc etc

what planet are u on?


EVERY RTS game has a rock/paper/scissors system, you even state it yourself. If there wasn't a rock paper scissors system in CoH why would you need to knock tecs back to produce counteractive units? Believeing that WiC is the only RTS in the world that uses rock/scissor/paper system also makes you a dumbass.

Cheers.

[traumascares]

In my opinion,

C+C3
SupCom
DoTA

All of the games have a healthy following, and they are different. It tends to be the same people playing CoH/WiC/C+C3 (people who are newer to strategy games often) so having tournaments running in those 3 games is silly. Dota, SupCom and C+C3 are perhaps the most popular on the list and provide a good variety and a good mix, I think most RTS players are a fan of at least one of those games (BTW I know dota tournaments in the past didn't work so well, but DOTA has recently enjoyed a massive explosion in CS players playing it when they are not in CS wars).

[[TRS]Scotteh]

Well done Claw, you completely failed at your post there. Although I can see why you might not understand Dwarfy, he's not the best person at discussing on forums lol. However telling him to how play the game won't help since the one thing he's good at is CoH.


This thread lost it's intended purpose a LONG time ago, what else did you expect to happen when all the random WiC people starting appearing from no where shouting WiC this and WiC that? People who are fans of the other games were bound to start supporting "their" game. I play SupCom, CoH and WiC and like them all, I don't think one is "better" than the other as they all have their style and appeal and you can't compare them because of it.

[Elkeeed]

If you dont hide tanks and AA behind treelines and buildings (naturaul and manmade defensive points) you are a dumbass. If you don't use flanking manouvres, if you dont assign multiple unit groups so you have a nice spread over a map so that you can fight for as many points as you can you are also a dumbass.

If you believe fighting in multiple places at the same time does not involve micro management, as well as concentrating on multiple aspects of the battle that are nothing to do with you, you are a dumbass.

The thing is you have to do all that in CoH and Supcom too, but then you have a whole load of other stuff to do as well. And you may need to swap our units to fit them in the unit cap, but you don't have an infinite resource pool so you actually have to weigh up whether changing is worth the loss.

[Dogbertuk]

WIC does have alot of micro management just cos you dont have a base dont mean that your not busy every sec doing moving and helping someone.

When you have played for as long as i have you know its just like most rts.

I like coh more only cos it keeps to the old way of playing rts.

[p1RATE]

I like coh more only cos it keeps to the old way of playing rts.

tbh i think CoH is the best RTS game there is probely for the same reason. although i do prefer playing WiC because i enjoy the competive side of it which is well intergrated

[Dogbertuk]

Dota ftw

[Dentist]

Dota ftw
this

[Dentist]

On that note, I'd just like to say I will make sure that at least a fun dota tournament gets run at i34 if its not picked for an official tournament.

[BlkKnight]

want to vote DOTA. . .

[Beaknuke]

I would like to learn a RTS for the event, im more FPS guy. Just dont know which one to pick first to look at as like to see the tourny's offered. oh well, back to cod lol.

[steinzy]

i thought it was meant to be about competitiveness not which is the best to watch, therefore shouldnt command and conquer be winning?

[Dwarfy]

cnc3 sucks....prob the worse RTS out :/