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Shazz
4th January 2008, 15:49
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/jeremy_clarkson/article3127320.ece

He'd actually get my vote!

Anim
4th January 2008, 16:14
Fully in agreement with his views on space. I just wish i had the knowledge to get us to another galaxy in our lifetime :(

snowblind
4th January 2008, 16:51
i'd have to kill him cause he'd have more on an excuse to say... "who'd like to see..."

Jobabob
4th January 2008, 19:11
I think he's a funny idiot and dont really agree with a single word he says. Its all half truths, the same a comedian would use because the truth doesnt always fit so neatly. I'd like to see his economic policies beyond 'why do we spend all this money on this and not boots for troops and all getting rid of all the immigrants on my road etc'

catbeef
4th January 2008, 21:19
kill everyone, don't bother starting over.

cat beef is saviour of man kind.

Jobabob
4th January 2008, 22:38
if I had my way, I'd kill anyone who disagreed with me

slashnmash
4th January 2008, 23:07
Jeremy Clarkson is such a legend, he gets my vote.

gemini
5th January 2008, 01:53
Jeremy Clarkson is a shining example in todays society. Where political correctness means everything, Clarkson is a shining example of how society should be. A man amongst men and not afraid to say exactly what is on his mind.

He is a perfect Prime Minister. No bull****.

Guigsy
5th January 2008, 03:56
if he had someone in my area standing for his party. id vote

Tim^
5th January 2008, 04:14
He is amusing to laugh at, but in all seriousness he is a moron.

lyn
5th January 2008, 07:50
He gets my vote every time. He says what he thinks and not what people want to hear which is a rare thing these days.

Jobabob
5th January 2008, 09:38
The annual conference of the Daily Mail would love you lot

Thrud
5th January 2008, 10:01
It's not about his economic policies, it's about common sense and a reaction to political correctness gone mad and this new british trend towards apathy.

He screams the polar opposite so that maybe, just maybe someone in power might listen and find a sensible middle ground.

Jobabob
5th January 2008, 10:22
The phrase 'political correctness gone mad' infuriates me. To me its like saying 'increased sensibilities necessary due to an increasingly diverse society are mad'.

Predobear
5th January 2008, 14:54
Sorry, you all fail.

He's just an old, slightly disgruntled, car reviewer with a sense of humour. And that's it. Not material of a prime minister - voting him into power has as much sense in it as giving Parliament to a goat.

I would try and counter argue everything you lot said that's absolutely wrong in here, but tbh that'd take hours. So I'm not going to and suggest you all go learn a little better politics. You'll soon see why electing him would be a bad idea.

Now stop taking him seriously. It's rather silly. :):

SilentMike
5th January 2008, 15:22
Sorry, you all fail.

He's just an old, slightly disgruntled, car reviewer with a sense of humour. And that's it. Not material of a prime minister - voting him into power has as much sense in it as giving Parliament to a goat.

I would try and counter argue everything you lot said that's absolutely wrong in here, but tbh that'd take hours. So I'm not going to and suggest you all go learn a little better politics. You'll soon see why electing him would be a bad idea.

Now stop taking him seriously. It's rather silly. :):

Agreed.

But ill also step back and watch the waggon fill of fans thinking a wacky presenter would make a good political leader.

Squaddie
5th January 2008, 15:54
The phrase 'political correctness gone mad' infuriates me. To me its like saying 'increased sensibilities necessary due to an increasingly diverse society are mad'.

There are sensible adjustments to life to accomodate for a diverse society, yes and fair enough, I agree with that. But then there are some people who take it to far and are trying to ban anything that people with no sense of humour find offensive.

But that is a whole different debate, and I'm not getting into that.

Jeremy Clarkson would never run for PM, and in the best interests of the country that is a good thing, but it is nice to sit down and read or sit back and listen to a man that just says what he thinks.

lyn
5th January 2008, 16:05
To be honest he couldn't make a worse job of it than has already been done.

Jobabob
5th January 2008, 17:30
He could if you're not white and/or drive a larda.

Thrud
5th January 2008, 23:11
'increased sensibilities necessary due to an increasingly diverse society' infuriates me. Recently, the predominant religion of this country became Roman Catholic, does that mean we will be removing condoms from the shelves to make sure we don't offend?

Should I worry that my actions, as someone who was born in the UK offends someone who has moved here, purely because it's against their religious or ethnic beliefs BUT part of what makes me British, err...no.

The UK is great, I love it here, and I can understand why people want to come here. Yes, we should tolerate them, but we should not have to change our customs or our laws because of this. They have chosen to move here because it is better than where they are from. People should not move here and try to change our country.

I don't believe what I have said makes me racist or intolerant, and I think it is a view shared by many law abiding, middle of the road UK citizens.

Jobabob
6th January 2008, 01:22
I think the majority of people want to come here and work hard, not to change the country?! I'm not entirely sure what you understand by 'multiculturalism' but you seem to define it as people coming here and, well, becoming 'british'. Whatever the flip that means!

The only reason I think political correctness has a place is because multiculturalism is a tough thing to sell and the only way to help it along is for everyone to be a little 'more careful'.

Obviously i'm not a total liberal douche, I can appreciate that you should only accomodate so far and obviously we've seen extremism as a symptom of people abusing this. Thankfully only a very small minority.

also lol at dissing RC's on contraception, did you watch the meaning of life the other day or something?

VVV DaY
6th January 2008, 09:28
'increased sensibilities necessary due to an increasingly diverse society' infuriates me. Recently, the predominant religion of this country became Roman Catholic, does that mean we will be removing condoms from the shelves to make sure we don't offend?

Should I worry that my actions, as someone who was born in the UK offends someone who has moved here, purely because it's against their religious or ethnic beliefs BUT part of what makes me British, err...no.

The UK is great, I love it here, and I can understand why people want to come here. Yes, we should tolerate them, but we should not have to change our customs or our laws because of this. They have chosen to move here because it is better than where they are from. People should not move here and try to change our country.

I don't believe what I have said makes me racist or intolerant, and I think it is a view shared by many law abiding, middle of the road UK citizens.

Well said although we shouldn't ignore their needs or beliefs completely.

Thrud
6th January 2008, 11:12
The thing is, multiculturism just means "we" have to change and adjust because of people moving here. They have chosen to come here and, therefore I would assume are willing to change to fit in with their rules.

Let's face it, if you decided to move to another country you would abide by their rules and cultures without batting an eyelid, so why therefore when people move here should we bend over backwards?

Dissing RC's? I'll sit and diss religion all day long if I think it is wrong, intolerant or out dates nonsense.

Jobabob
6th January 2008, 12:15
lol, ever been to gibraltar? We're a racist joke when it comes to integration.

If you want to live in a little bubble that ignores us living in a global society, go live in comically white harrogate or one of the other backwards towns in the north.

The problem we have today is that there are those that cant even fit into the basic tenets of british society (e.g. extremists) and these tarnish those who come here on very honourable terms. I think the change that these honourable people bring, through new cultures and traditions is surely only a good thing. Given we now have third generation asians living in this country, surely 'britishness' should incorporate that culture?

How would you define britishness? How long does a population have to live here before they become part of that definition?

10acious
6th January 2008, 13:55
He says what he thinks and not what people want to hear which is a rare thing these days.

Dont you think its odd that everybody agrees with what he says considering its not what people want to hear?

Also it seems silly of me to have to point this out, but a country is made up of people, regardless of what landmass they initially came from. It should be common sense that the country should adapt to the needs and requests of all of it's people, and not just to the people that were spawned within its great boundaries.

Squaddie
6th January 2008, 16:37
Yes, but in countries, certain traditions have evolved over the years that people continue. Christmas, for example. What do we assosciate with Christmas? Santa, presents, nativity scenes, fairy lights etc etc.

In certain parts of the country, things like that are being banned because of people moaning that they cause offence to people. It is things like that people get annoyed with. No-one here is trying to say we should split the population by where they come from, but we shouldn't have to ban things that we have celebrated in this country for years and years just because some politically correct idiots become offended by the slightest things.

That is why JC is so popular nowadays, because he says what he thinks, and what quite alot of other people think, but they're too afraid to say it for fear of being branded something which they are not.

Shazz
6th January 2008, 17:10
Yes, but in countries, certain traditions have evolved over the years that people continue. Christmas, for example. What do we assosciate with Christmas? Santa, presents, nativity scenes, fairy lights etc etc.

In certain parts of the country, things like that are being banned because of people moaning that they cause offence to people. It is things like that people get annoyed with.

No they arn't. This is just pointless rumours from when birmingham council renamed something "winter holidays" (cant remember what it was). and its spiralled out of control since.

porsche
6th January 2008, 18:16
Winter Celebration

Jobabob
6th January 2008, 19:07
That is why JC is so popular nowadays, because he says what he thinks, and what quite alot of other people think, but they're too afraid to say it for fear of being branded something which they are not.
I thought JC was getting less popular, thats why turnout at church is so poor

nic0
7th January 2008, 18:42
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7174760.stm

^_^

Jobabob
7th January 2008, 18:57
did make me actually laugh out loud, but i think its a bit of a misnomer, the bank has to guarantee all direct debits incase someone does something like this, else the whole DD system would fall apart. DD's have to be paid to companies too obviously and you have to be vetted before you can recieve them.

So technically, through his stupid logic, he's right that people wont be able to do much with the info, but he was so blinded in his rage he forgot that if you dont check your bank account people can mess around.

Unplugged
7th January 2008, 19:08
Do you honestly think hes going to claim back the £500 though ;)

Jobabob
8th January 2008, 07:28
well yes, its clarkson and the bank will be fronting the bill, the charity will more than likely keep the money. All the person who 'stole' clarksons details has done in effect is tarnish the ability for that charity to accept DD donations.

Unplugged
8th January 2008, 09:34
Well no they wont the bank will reverse the payment a bit like if they "accidently" put £1000 in your bank and you spent it. They will simply make you overdrawn and say "sorry but banking error"

Jobabob
8th January 2008, 20:25
that a completely different scenario to 'guaranteeing' a payment, i'm sure they wouldnt be able to reverse a payment thats already been sent

KingsColours
8th January 2008, 21:48
I love his attitude to global warming. If we all work together to spread pollution then one day we will have weather much like that of southern france, isnt that the dream. :D

Jobabob
9th January 2008, 00:02
the orange groves of the south downs under the heathrow flight path have been doing rather well recently