The big "What do people want to do in EVE" thread

[Crea]

Edit: Oops, logged on as the wrong person. Ryv

What do people want to do in EVE? Not in the far future when we all have 10 beeeeelion skill points, but right now?

I've just got back from StaffLAN last night (leaving at 1.30 AM makes for good times on motorways. Arrival in south-east london at 3.15 AM :)) and we've had a lot of good fun EVE playing.

I've learnt a few things.

1. Coop EVE missioning is rather fun. We had a fleet of 8 ships, mixed cruisers and frigates and were doing level 2 missions. We spent an hour or so cracking one of the recon ones (Where you're supposed to warp in, go "OMFG many ships!" and warp out again) and there was much satisfaction to be had in taking down a big herd of pirates that could have decimated any of us individually.

2. Missioning could get boring. But while we're low level it does provide a suitable challenge. People say that you can solo level 4's in a battleship but we're all a long way off that at the moment. There are also COSMOS missions and the like to look at.

3. Having a corp hangar in Rens Brutor Tribe Treasury would be awesome for group looting and ship storage. Hint hint.

4. NEVER, EVER try and target a gang mate with a remote repper while also shooting pirates. CONCORD do not like it when the pirate pops and queued guns hit your friend by mistake.

So what am I saying. Well, I think it would be rather cool if we could do some more of this coop stuff. Missioning has a rather WOW raiding feel about it, and I know that a lot of our recent starters are familiar and enjoy that kind of thing. we can develop to the point where we can start in on level 3s or do COSMOS stuff, people can build up some flight and fleet experience, which will be useful if we move onto PVP later hopefully without too much death on our side. If some people wanted to work mining or industrial in the area, and support by developing blueprints and manufacture, that would be awesome sauce. Having a stole of rifters for example, and basic fitting supplies.

To make this work, we'd need a group of people centred around one place (Rens seems good) so I'd advise minmater new starters in the area to congregate their and be doing missions with Brutor tribe?

What do others think?

Ryv

[Dentist]

3. Having a corp hangar in Rens Brutor Tribe Treasury would be awesome for group looting and ship storage. Hint hint.

Never. Going. To. Happen.

It could cost us more for a month in rent to get an office there than we would all make doing missions solidly 24/7 for a month.

[Blue_Monkey]

suggest moving to somewhere we can get a cheaper office then? I'm deffo up some group action tbh really enjoy flying the smaller ships just such a change from the lumbering bigger ones.

End game for me is actually moving to 0.0 space to set up shop mining and building stuff at last and protecting our corp space.

But for now i want some kersploding group experience so wheres the noobie party at?

[snowblind]

if the ultimate goal as a corporation is to find some 0.0 space to call our own with full industrialisation and the likes then I am definitely up for that.

In the mean time why don;t we all move to the same area and group mission, the problem is we are all over the place at the moment and even if someone wants to mission with me i'm 22 jumps away.

[WhiteKnight]

As ive said before... i have access to level 2, 3, 4 and 5 missions if people want to come along, i`m happy to organise "raids" etc.

They are in caldari space tho, so its quite a few hops away from your current Minmatar mission running space, however it is in the same region as the PSPR corp HQ.

My neck of the woods will have a local corp hanger as soon as i get back there... it will be filled to the BRIM (http://www.0wn4ge.co.uk/gallery/loot.jpg) (old pic, well in excess of 25k m³ now) with goodies for all the noobs.... including ships if required... ive not had a chance to actually arrange it yet tho.

I`m also based only a few jumps away from 0sec space, and also a station that offeres "free" jump clones, so you can all protect your precious implants before we head out to the lawless wilderness.

As for the general "what do i do in eve?" question... i found this site to be an excellent summary of your options.

http://www.eve-academy.eu/kainscionofbalance/JobGuide.html

[Wizzo]

1km3 != 1000m3

1km3 = 1000mx1000mx1000m = 1,000,000,000m3

</pedant> :)

I'm well up for "instancing" but do like the end game objective of levelling my miner right up to going on big mining runs in 0.0 to power space stations, etc. Rorqual here we come (in about a year (or two) :p).

[WhiteKnight]

In an ideal world we would have some people training to be miners / traders / industrial, some to be fighters, some to be recon, and some to be support.

A good corp needs a fairly even distribution from each discipline. If you are in an alliance you can forego some and rely on your alliance to back you up, but if you want to be a truly self sufficient corp then you need a little of everything really.

I`m currently not quite sure where i`m going atm, altho i`m skilling towards getting a Golem (http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/item_database.php?id=i28710) in about 12 billion years time.

[Dentist]

its 1k m3 craig, not 1 km3 :)

[Blue_Monkey]

I thought the Kronos (http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/item_database.php?id=i28661)was the best marauder? Or has it been nerfed already? WK's area sounds good then, all the new guys should move sooner rather than later so they don't get comfortable where they are atm ;)

So where are you based?

[snowblind]

Ok well i'm going to move to lonetrek where WK is.

I think we should all aim for the same area.

[WhiteKnight]

Haajinen for Level 1
Oipo for Level 2 and 3
Isinokka for Level 1,2, and 4
Torrinos for Level 2,3,4 and 5

They are all at the top of Lonetrek region, in the Asalola constellation.

Theres also a local system (Yoma) full of belts, and an ice field for those miners amongst us :D

I`ll be making the corp hanger in Isinokka tho, as at least one of the stations offer fairly cheap office rental. My current base in Oipo would cost about 16 mil / month iirc.

[Hg]

Currently I'm Having fun Mining But as im new to the game i would like to see what we could do and see if we could get some More members for PSPR.
As whiteknight said we need to have a mixed range of classes and skills to be successful.
And as there are mainy new members (inc me) maybe we can steer them into playing certin trades.

[WhiteKnight]

I thought the Kronos (http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/item_database.php?id=i28661)was the best marauder? Or has it been nerfed already?

It may be, but i have nearly 7 million sp in missiles so i think i`d like to stick with caldari ships :D

[Blue_Monkey]

ok i'll be chewing you up in a year or two then :P

I'll move my mining ship over to yoma then and everything else to Isinokka hopefully won't be too many runs in the hulk

[kandy]

I'm busy training up skills at the moment, but definatly want to be involved on corp stuff in the future.

Recon and EW sounds like what I want to do :)

It would be good if we could get some sort of "plan" drawn up of where we want to be as a corp in x months and what each of us should be aiming for skills and ship/fitout wise, gives us something to work towards then and get ourselves organised.

At the moment I'm just floating about training skills and doing the odd mission here and there but if someone said to me "Kandy in 3 months we want you to have X type of ship geared for Y type of recon so you can come fly with us in 0.0" then it gives us all something to work towards.

[WhiteKnight]

ok i'll be chewing you up in a year or two then :P

Well theres only 12 days difference in the training time for me, so by the time i can fly the golem, it wont take long to train up the extra skills needed for a Kronos.

It will, however cost me about 70 mil just for the skillbooks :eek:

[Blue_Monkey]

Do we have anyone that has done pos management before?

[Dentist]

I have, but i'm in IAC. I can obviously help you tho.

[WhiteKnight]

I think we`re a long way off that atm.

[Blue_Monkey]

got to have targets

[WhiteKnight]

If PSPR are going to stay as an active corp then i think a good goal might be to have a well established low sec or 0.0 PoS(s) by the end of the year. That gives everyone time to get a reasonable spread of skills in their chosen profession and time to learn to use them effectively. By then the existing crop of noobs should be on about 12 to 14 mil sp and have a decent amount of cash floating around to be able to fund large corp operations.

[kandy]

How about listing the positions we need as a corp and we can put ourselves down to fill those?

Like someone mentioned before with Recon / Mining / Fighter etc.

[WhiteKnight]

I dont think we have enough active members, atm, to have anyone purely focussed on a single role.

[kandy]

hmm fair enough. generic skills it is for the moment then :)

[Wizzo]

or multiple accounts... ahem :)

[kandy]

or multiple accounts... ahem :)

lol, Corp Wizzo which will run on a 20 display beast of a machine, unveiled shortly after a small % rise in i-series ticket prices :p

[Thrud]

I dont think we have enough active members, atm, to have anyone purely focussed on a single role.

How many active have you got atm then?

[WhiteKnight]

about 5 "really active" (on most days)

about 10 "semi active" (havent been online in a day or two)

about 10 "played it a couple of times and havent come back yet"

and one or two "logged on once"

Theres also a few people who arent in the corp yet.

[Omnituens]

i am sat in MPUK, its seems rather dead. anyone want to point me direction of the current clan?

[snowblind]

i am sat in MPUK, its seems rather dead. anyone want to point me direction of the current clan?


its #mpuk

[j03]

1km3 != 1000m3

1km3 = 1000mx1000mx1000m = 1,000,000,000m3

</pedant> :)

I'm well up for "instancing" but do like the end game objective of levelling my miner right up to going on big mining runs in 0.0 to power space stations, etc. Rorqual here we come (in about a year (or two) :p).



we look forward to locator agent /probing you and pewpew :P

[WhiteKnight]

The in game channel is #mpuk, the Corp is "Pat Sharp's Potato Rodeo"

You`ll need to get to Illinfrik or Ichinumi to sign up.

Join #mpukeve on irc for real time help :)

[WhiteKnight]

I`ll be making the corp hanger in Isinokka tho, as at least one of the stations offer fairly cheap office rental.

Ok, i lied. The stations in Isinokka want over 30 mil per month rent.

Sod that.

The local office will now be "Oipo IV - Corporate Police Force Assembly Plant"

A slightly more reasonable 700k / month Which is easily recouped once people start doing missions / mining / ratting.

[Silk75]

Failboat is steaming to meet you Omnituens

[Deman]

For those minmatar members that have been working on Brutor faction Illinfrik is Brutor lvl 3 agent station and only 3 jumps from Rens.

I would suggest those that have done a gajillion boring lvl 1 missions with Brutor that they stay in Brutor space and continue doing it since theres a number of you there.

If need be I can come help out and take you on some or at least point you in the right direction. I believe Ryv is on lvl 2 missions as is Kaution, although Kautions in Icaru.

ps. Avoid Amamake its only a few jumps off Rens and is almost always camped by dirty pirates!

[WhiteKnight]

That's only necessary if people really want to carry on with that faction.

I have done enough missions with "Spacelane Patrol" that PSPR as a corp has good standing with them. Most people should have instant access to level 2 agents, or at the very least high end level 1s meaning there's not a lot of work required to move up to level 2s. I would recommend everyone who wants to keep doing missions train up connections asap tho.

Plus for those who don't want to be seeing the same old thing all the time, flying to the other side of the galaxy gives a bit more insight into the game.

[Blue_Monkey]

moving now instead of later is a must though as it'll only become harder with time believe me! And everyone in the same place makes for much better pew pew

[WhiteKnight]

Indeed, there's no requirement for everyone to be in the same place, but it does make organising group pew pew easier.

[Ryvita]

The real advantage to working for a minmatar corporation like brutor though is that we can be grinding loyalty towards something useful. Also, the mobs actually drop apploicable loot. Doing missions in gallente space will drop a whole lot of gear that we can't really use, like lasers or particle cannons. We need autocannon/artillery etc.

I'll quite happily grind away at loyalty points with a shiney republic fleet firetail or stabber at the end of it. but less so if I work on missions for six months and end up with a ship I can't fly?

p.s. How does fleet stabber compare to a vagabond?

p.p.s. I was investigating something we saw while missioning at StaffLAN. We were doing wizzo's mission in the system next door, can't remember the name, and there is an item on the overview called Rogue Drone Sprout (or similar). It's a multi-level complex, threat level 2, suitable for Frigates/destoryers. Low SP characters (Russ, Craig, Bugs etc.) may wish to check it out. I wandered in and did the first two rooms in an assault frigate with no trouble but it gets harder the further down you go. Good loot will be lurking at the bottom. May be a suitable target for a group effort in the very near future.

[Deman]

Yes these are the instances I was rambling on about. There are also ones that require probes etc to discover which a few Icaru were doing the other day. Some are crap but some can be very rewarding.

Incedentally, how do I go about getting good implants from missions, the only ones so far are from nameds in lvl 4 missions which are fiarly poor or story line mission rewards. Or do I need to be venturing into these probe DED instances.

[WhiteKnight]

The real advantage to working for a minmatar corporation like brutor though is that we can be grinding loyalty towards something useful.

Thats only true if you are doing the missions on your own. When you are group missioning, its only the person who got the mission who gains the LP towards the corp in question. Everyone else just gets bounties, salvage and loot. Also LP only give you "discounts" on faction items. You can still buy pretty much all of them on contract so just sell all the "non racial" fittings you pick up, and buy racial faction fittings.


Also, the mobs actually drop apploicable loot. Doing missions in gallente space will drop a whole lot of gear that we can't really use, like lasers or particle cannons. We need autocannon/artillery etc.

Also not strictly true. I have only been doing missions in caldari space and i have an almost perfect split across weapon / shield / ammo types in my loot. Theres only a slight Caldari bias but i have hybrids, lasers, projectiles and missiles of almost every type.



p.p.s. I was investigating something we saw while missioning at StaffLAN. We were doing wizzo's mission in the system next door, can't remember the name, and there is an item on the overview called Rogue Drone Sprout (or similar). It's a multi-level complex, threat level 2, suitable for Frigates/destoryers. Low SP characters (Russ, Craig, Bugs etc.) may wish to check it out. I wandered in and did the first two rooms in an assault frigate with no trouble but it gets harder the further down you go. Good loot will be lurking at the bottom. May be a suitable target for a group effort in the very near future.

Complexes are quite good for profit making, however the low end ones in high sec space tend to get overrun by other people. While this means that you can clear them easier, it does also lessen the bounties you get.

[Anim]

Yeah you dont get many implants from missions, just zor's stuff usually in one mission. The implants come from the loyalty store, but at 80k LP a pop theyre a touch expensive.

[Ryvita]

It's useful to know that there is a suitably low level starter's one just next door then. :)

It's a drone complex, which I think means "Gistii" type named stuff, yes?

[Blue_Monkey]

I've picked up lasers and hybrids autocannon and missile launchers in caldari space so far all of which im stuffing into the corp hanger and waiting for some groupies

[Deman]

Drone also means no bounty but decent salvage/loot to refine.

Doesn't turning in the mission saying "My Fleet has completed the mission" split the loyalty points also? I know it splits the cash.

[Dentist]

Yes, it will also split the LP.

[WhiteKnight]

Fair enough, didn't know that.

Still the other point stands.. you can buy most faction items on contract, so if we do loads of big missions as a group, the bounties / salvage and loot would allow people to buy their faction mods even if you cant get them in the LP store.

Even with the appropriate amount of LP in the store, the better faction fittings still require other resources to buy them anyway. For example most t2 ships require silly amounts of LP, plus a load of minerals, or resources, and the t1 version of the ship before you can buy them in a lot of cases.

[I R Crazy Hippo]

with regards to faction items, you can always sell for example gallente faction stuff, then buy faction minmatar stuff.

and if you are all in close proximity you are in a position to help each other in emergencies.

[WhiteKnight]

Isn't that sort of what i just said ? :rolleyes:

[I R Crazy Hippo]

eeerr.....yeah i guess so :p

look its just after christmas and my second day back at work and my brain hurts ok....... :confused:

[Blue_Monkey]

WK old chap you appear to have organised the corp hanger all lovely putting guns in one place and ammo in another, however you havn't changed permissions so all i have access to is Division 1 guns. An i was after a shield booster that i put in yesterday :)

[Ryvita]

Where is this magical place you refer to as the corp hangar?

[Blue_Monkey]

Opio IV - Corporate Police force assembley plant

[afty]

In an ideal world we would have some people training to be miners / traders / industrial, some to be fighters, some to be recon, and some to be support.I assume I should start an ALT with a different set of skills to my primary (combat) ?

Any idea what we will need most? Will probably try being a miner...

[SarGara]

As ive said before... i have access to level 2, 3, 4 and 5 missions if people want to come along, i`m happy to organise "raids" etc.

White the level4 we did a couple of weeks back now really opened my mates eyes to missions being a viable option in EvE. With your connections and access to high level missions id deffinately recommend you organise some sort of raid evening as it was a blast!

I think the more people you can expose to this "WoW mission" element of EvE the better for PSPR and its active member count.

[WhiteKnight]

WK old chap you appear to have organised the corp hanger all lovely putting guns in one place and ammo in another, however you havn't changed permissions so all i have access to is Division 1 guns. An i was after a shield booster that i put in yesterday :)

Lol, sorry, i was mid way through sorting all that when i had a fit of cba. :awesome:

I figured as most people weren't there yet it wasn't a problem :roll:

Should be sorted now.

[WhiteKnight]

I assume I should start an ALT with a different set of skills to my primary (combat) ?

Any idea what we will need most? Will probably try being a miner...

Well you dont have to 100% specialise in one field... some complement each other too. The industrial route will be needed if / when we start manufacturing stuff tho.



White the level4 we did a couple of weeks back now really opened my mates eyes to missions being a viable option in EvE. With your connections and access to high level missions id deffinately recommend you organise some sort of raid evening as it was a blast!

I think the more people you can expose to this "WoW mission" element of EvE the better for PSPR and its active member count.

Thats the whole point of setting up the base in Oipo. A nice central source of refills / replacement parts... and somewhere everyone can gather to get missions.

[Predat0r]

Well once I've got my main machine working again, I should be able to start lugging all my stuff back to Oipo - only a few jumps away. :v

But from that list I'm currently aiming at doing trading and earning money via courier contracts and what not. But will probably need someone in the corporation able to actually create blueprints/actual items for me to dawdle off around the system/region and sell. Looks like that particular region has a lot of things going rather expensively, or local regions at least, won't be hard to undercut people.

That, and I'll probably be doing recon with frigates for the PvP side of things, or running around them with frigates webbing them and such things (was suggested to me last time, that and the set of skills I started with suits it) :D:

[WhiteKnight]

If you want to make money selling stuff.. Genesis is looking like a fairly virgin market. You cant buy anything down there at the moment. It could be worth filling a freighter up with T1 generic parts and selling them down there at inflated prices.

You`d need to try and gauge the market need tho. Clearly some things will be in more demand than others.

[Blue_Monkey]

Is Genesis a new part of space then?

[WhiteKnight]

No, theres just nothing down there. Plenty of systems, and stations, but nothing on the market of use.

Genesis is where the war was going down. But there is nowhere to buy ships, or fittings in most of the region.

You have to go over to Domain or one of the other local regions to get anything useful.

[Blue_Monkey]

oo we could be gun runners :D

Sorry for ignoring you i was autopiloting while pretending to work

[Thrud]

Drone also means no bounty but decent salvage/loot to refine.

Doesn't turning in the mission saying "My Fleet has completed the mission" split the loyalty points also? I know it splits the cash.

Also handy to know that standing can be raised in this fashion, without your gang mate even needing to leave the station. Works as follows :

Noob player needs standing to do Level 1 missions with new faction
Veteran Player can do level 4 missions for said faction.
Form gang
Run level 4 missions.
Complete mission and split rewards.
Standing on Noob goes up fast
?
Profit??

As a bonus they get more isk and LP as well :)

[WhiteKnight]

Indeed this is an option.

[StorkDK]

Im not sure that storyline missions will transfer faction standings through gang system.
Tho train Social skills and you'll have a high quality agent in no time.

[Anim]

You can split via gang but you will lose some standings into the ether. The most effective way really is to just get 3-4 people each pick up a mission, go and do them all and then hand in seperately for all.