POS attack on Sunday.

[WhiteKnight]

A merc alliance (Repo Industries) has been hired to attack DAED.

There is most likely going to be a significant offensive in Chej some time sunday afternoon when the war dec goes live. Probably about 5 / 6pm

The more the merrier noobs frigates are welcome, altho expect to replace your ship several times.

Dont forget to re-locate your clone to a local station so when you get podded you can get back in quickly... PSPR has an office in Shuria so that may be favorite.

If possible i would sugest clone jumping to save your implants if you have any.

[Towneh]

The battle we had at the Chej pos today was the most fun i've had in eve so far, time to get even :)

[Anim]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/173/473000391_10342ed703.jpg

[Predat0r]

I have two frigates to use.

Will I be needing more? :awesome:

[WhiteKnight]

Depends how they are kitted out...

Slap stabs, webs, and mwd on them, and you`ll probably not even take a hit if you orbit close enough.

That does assume you have the skills to fit such things tho.

[Silk75]

This should be fun, expect to see some large ships going at it, not like the BALEX war.

Incidentally, we may expect to see BALEX at some point, so it may be a 3 way thing

[Aardvark]

If you put stabs on a frig I'm going to laugh at you with your 1km lock range.

[afty]

What are stabs? WIll attempt to make this when I get to LAN this evening, but suspect I will be late :(

[afty]

Also I have no spare frigs yet, but do have a few mill cash.

If someone could find/ready a spare expendable frig for me (mine is not PvP optimal atmo) that would be awesome. Much hugs and ISK.

[Anim]

stabs are the common short name for Warp Stabilizers, which help to prevent you from being warp scrambled. Downside is they reduce your scan resolution and range a LOT.

They could also mean i-stab, magstab etc.

[Silk75]

Stabs are Warp stabilisers which counteract the effects of warp scramblers. They have the downside of reducing the target lock range by 50%+ though, which can be a problem.

[WhiteKnight]

If you put stabs on a frig I'm going to laugh at you with your 1km lock range.

Its nowhere near that bad.... you go from around 30km to about 15km. You need to remember that most of the noobs can barely hit at that range anyway.

Even with 3 stabs fitted, a tristan still has a target range of nearly 7km.

And does that really matter if you are orbiting at only a few km to use webs anyway ?

[Aardvark]

Its nowhere near that bad.... you go from around 30km to about 15km. You need to remember that most of the noobs can barely hit at that range anyway.

Even with 3 stabs fitted, a tristan still has a target range of nearly 7km.

And does that really matter if you are orbiting at only a few km to use webs anyway ?

It matters quite a bit when smartbombs have a range of 7.5km, yes.

Also warp disruptors are far more important than webs, and they have a range of 20km. So if your target range is under 20km then you're going to start missing tackles, which is the number 1 reason for Complete Fail if you're in a frig. Don't do it kids.

Seriously, nowadays the only reason to fit stabs is if you're in a travel setup. You destroy your lock range and lock time too much if you actually intend to fight stuff.

[WhiteKnight]

Fair enough... I`ll bow to your experience... it was only a sugestion anyway..

For future reference tho, its more useful to explain your post like that than just saying "dont do it or i`ll laugh at you". With the complexities of EVE's ship fittings, its handy to know the "whys", and not just the "whats" and "hows".

[Anim]

Stabs in general are a nono, theres often far more useful things you can fit.

[Aardvark]

For future reference tho, its more useful to explain your post like that than just saying "dont do it or i`ll laugh at you". With the complexities of EVE's ship fittings, its handy to know the "whys", and not just the "whats" and "hows".

I did, the 1km lock range thing.

[afty]

So what should I slap on disposable frigates then for tackling?

[Aardvark]

So what should I slap on disposable frigates then for tackling?

http://forums.multiplay.co.uk/showthread.php?t=54815

Well its only the midslots that genuinely matter, so play around with especially the lows as much as you like.

[WhiteKnight]

Please be aware that there is very little in the way of useful stuff on the market in genesis.

It would be extremely handy for anyone coming down to fill their cargo hold with ammo and frigate fittings like small hybrids and rocket launchers.

[Towneh]

we've got a setup already sorted for our frigates in preparation for the pos attack (if it ever comes).

It basically involves afterburner, warp scrambler and either a webber/target painter (for the larger pos gun tracking) if you have 3 mids to spare. Overdrives on the low points for speed and whilst flying at about 6km from the primary target (to avoid bs smartbomb range), thats a cheap & disposable frigate for helping a pos destroy their battleships pretty damn fast.

stabs and any form of repair/tanking module is pretty much useless for what these frigates will be doing, but watching several of them tackle a bs with a pos full to cpu/grid of nothing but turrets causing said bs to go pop is definately a sight i'ld like to see.

[Deman]

SoK appear to want peace after all.

[Silk75]

Oh well, back to cat and mousing with BALEX then I suppose

[WhiteKnight]

Indeed, the supposed PoS attack never happened and there were people manning the PoS 24x7 just in case.

We need to organise some real gank sessions and give these balkans something to think about :D

[afty]

Is there some sort of "alert" network... I can understand having people manning a POS - but there an email / SMS network in place to fire info to people to say "this shiz just started, if you're checking email/watching a DVD or eating, stop now and log on" ?

[WhiteKnight]

Not outside of game, no.

CEOs get notified when their PoS is under attack with an eve-mail in game i think, so they can contact people "offline" and get them in game.

There are mechanisms that mean you don't HAVE to man the PoS 24x7 in game. If you set it up correctly, its not possible to take out a pos in "one hit". When it receives a certain amount of damage, it drops into a "re-enforced" mode (essentially making it all but invincible) for 24 hours to allow the owners to rally the troops ready to defend it.

[Silk75]

Not really, by the sound of it a lot of peeps in Icaru are on Vent all the time idling in the afk channel just in case. Some of the senior peeps have each others mobile numbers, but not more than that.

[afty]

Yeah, that's what I was wondering - if someone should have my email addy or phone number for alerts.

[Deman]

Actually there is, a large majority of Icaru all had mobile numbers exchanged in preperation. However thier was a lot of us sat afk doing whatever on ventrilo while some kept watch in the surrounding systems.

[WhiteKnight]

Actually there is, a large majority of Icaru all had mobile numbers exchanged in preperation. However thier was a lot of us sat afk doing whatever on ventrilo while some kept watch in the surrounding systems.

Yes, but that's not an official "part of the game" alerting process. That's a player run game mechanic.

[snowblind]

you know thinking about it, you could very easily set up a twitter account and have people subscribe to then someone could text everyone for free!

[afty]

Yes, but that's not an official "part of the game" alerting process. That's a player run game mechanic.Yeah, that's what I was asking... is there someone who can alert me if they desperately need a noob Rifter somewhere?

[WhiteKnight]

Well as the wars are now over, its less of a problem.

If / when another war comes our way, its something we need to think about.

[Aardvark]

IRC works well for this.

[afty]

IRC works well for this.IRC would be utterly terrible for this.

IRC is a chat system, I'm talking about an alert system. Something to actually NOTIFY you when you are needed, SMS feels like the best bet, closely followed by email...

[Dentist]

Well, you can set an emergency alert channel in IRC with highlights from that channel making some interesting alarm noise or something, I know we used to do that.

[Aardvark]

Goonfleet use an SMS system for capital pilots, but it costs cash money thats really going too far for a small corp. IRC works because unless people are slack bastards and never check, the info persists for people to act on.

[Deman]

speaking of pos attacks the new maps are starting to make for interesting readings in BoB and FIX old areas. Razor, IAC, aAa all claiming new lands.

I'm guessing the southern alliance will turn to **** within the next month or 2 and in fighting shall start.