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Cheez
28th December 2007, 22:07
We've currently got Be Unlimited, and as we're about 2 meters from the exchange we get the full 24 mbit. We've also got a second phone line and were wondering what hardware we'd need to trunk 2 connections together. We'd preferably like something "all in one", we wouldn't really want to have 2 be boxes plugged into a third box that plugs into the lan. Something we can plug both lines into one end and a switch into the other (or even has a switch onboard) would be great. Any ideas what we'd need? I seem to remember Cisco doing what we want but I've no idea what to look for.

ez64
28th December 2007, 22:23
Like the old ISDN lines I presume, im not up to date with that equipment anymore so im not much help.

but

48mb down 5mb up would be god like.

Unplugged
28th December 2007, 22:25
Depends our router at work does load balancing its only a standard router though so you need two modems. You also wont get full speed either ( well maybe for downloads if your browser will open multiple connections to source ) but basically the router will allow you to totally saturate one connection while shifting traffic down another for everyone else.

what your after is a dual ADSL2+ router that does load balancing. Ive not seen one yet ( that doesent mean they dont exist ive never had to look for one ) but I think you may need to do it with a router and couple of modems. BE if I recall dont do any sort of Bonded DSL yet.

ez64
29th December 2007, 00:24
http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopSearch.asp?CategoryID=48

that's the kind of thing that will do the job.

on top of that have two adsl2 routers then connect them to the WAN ethernet port's, then other ports should have a load balanced internet connection.

Unplugged
29th December 2007, 01:09
We use the RV042 at work ( Linksys ) its not to bad but never tested the load balancing.

MONK
29th December 2007, 20:37
We've currently got Be Unlimited, and as we're about 2 meters from the exchange we get the full 24 mbit. We've also got a second phone line and were wondering what hardware we'd need to trunk 2 connections together. We'd preferably like something "all in one", we wouldn't really want to have 2 be boxes plugged into a third box that plugs into the lan. Something we can plug both lines into one end and a switch into the other (or even has a switch onboard) would be great. Any ideas what we'd need? I seem to remember Cisco doing what we want but I've no idea what to look for.

If you are going to load balance (e.g. one tcp/udp stream goes out one WAN port, another out a different one) then there are a load of routers that will do the job as shown above. But you will get a max download/upload speed of a single connection not two! So if you do this you may want to look at a separate ISP for failover reasons.

If you go down the bonded route (someone like managedcomms etc...) then you can get the combined download/upload speed and it is possible in some cases to get each connection on separate exchanges. Due to the way it works it requires the ISP to be involved with the bonding unlike the load balanced approach.

The equipment tends to be more expensive for this (£500+) but the lines cost is largely the same. Not certain about how many companies offer 24MB services though but it would be worth a few calls.

KingDaveRa
29th December 2007, 20:52
Contact Be support, and ask.

Chicane
29th December 2007, 21:03
Contact Be support, and ask.

/me giggles

they didnt even know what simultaneous line and adsl was.

AdamR
29th December 2007, 21:35
I was doing to recommend Draytek too. They've got a nice selection of ADSL2+ multi-line routers. They do some cable too.

KingDaveRa
29th December 2007, 23:40
/me giggles

they didnt even know what simultaneous line and adsl was.

I bet Zen would

:p

AdamR
30th December 2007, 00:51
Zen know everything

Elkeeed
30th December 2007, 02:26
If you are going to load balance (e.g. one tcp/udp stream goes out one WAN port, another out a different one) then there are a load of routers that will do the job as shown above. But you will get a max download/upload speed of a single connection not two! So if you do this you may want to look at a separate ISP for failover reasons.

The way you put this makes it sound as though half the bandwidth would go to waste which is not neccesarily the case. While 1 connection can only fill 1 link, with multiple connections you can spread across both links to use the full bandwidth. Obviously there will be limitations depending on your type of traffic.

MONK
31st December 2007, 11:12
The way you put this makes it sound as though half the bandwidth would go to waste which is not neccesarily the case. While 1 connection can only fill 1 link, with multiple connections you can spread across both links to use the full bandwidth. Obviously there will be limitations depending on your type of traffic.

To clarify, "A maximum bandwidth equal to the maximum speed of a single line per TCP or UDP stream." :)