*READ THIS* EVE PREMIUM CLIENT DELETES c:\boot.ini

[Aardvark]

If you've installed the premium client read this and make sure you aren't about to get screwed over:

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=651679

Applause for CCP! :fist:

IF YOU HAVEN'T REBOOTED YET, YOU CAN FIX IT FROM WINDOWS

To fix:

Open notepad.

copy in:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect

with whatever os you have.

go to "save as" and make sure you change it to all files (otherwise you end up with boot.ini.txt) and save as c:\boot.ini.

go to start->run->cmd

enter "attrib +s +h +a boot.ini" when at the c:\ prompt


to verify, go to start->run->msconfig and there should be a tab for boot.ini

IF YOU REBOOTED AND YOUR SYSTEM DOESN'T BOOT ANYMORE:

Boot from your OS cd. and follow the directions to start Recovery Console. Choose the corresponding number asked of you for your OS is on, normally its #1 Then type:

Attrib -H -R -S C:\Boot.ini
DEL C:\Boot.ini
BootCfg /Rebuild
Fixboot

[zhardoum]

Many thanks, oddly enough im at 98% downloaded now of the update.. phew.. close one..

Bwahahaha. just noticed it is already been deleted.. omg lol, cock up of the most monumental proportions.. thanks for the heads up..

[Deman]

And there was me just thinking of re-installing!

[Joey[kins]]

how in the name of all that is holy was this allowed to happen?

[kandy]

that is pretty shocking..... wonder if the person who did that still has a job this morning :p

http://www.soulboundtrance.com/misc/eve/wtfccp.jpg

[Aardvark]

;694760']how in the name of all that is holy was this allowed to happen?

Its a simple mistake, but then again naming your game files the same as system files is just asking for trouble really.

[kandy]

Its a simple mistake, but then again naming your game files the same as system files is just asking for trouble really.

A simple mistake for a clueless secondary school student doing his first programming project maybe..... not a team of software developers!!!

I mean not checking your paths correctly when deleting files?? Let alone files with the same name as critical OS boot files..

[Ryvita]

**** **** **** **** ****

Any way this can be fixed once done without a reinstall?

[Aardvark]

IF YOU HAVEN'T REBOOTED YET, YOU CAN FIX IT FROM WINDOWS

To fix:

Open notepad.

copy in:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect

with whatever os you have.

go to "save as" and make sure you change it to all files (otherwise you end up with boot.ini.txt) and save as c:\boot.ini.

go to start->run->cmd

enter "attrib +s +h +a boot.ini" when at the c:\ prompt


to verify, go to start->run->msconfig and there should be a tab for boot.ini

IF YOU REBOOTED AND YOUR SYSTEM DOESN'T BOOT ANYMORE:

Boot from your OS cd. and follow the directions to start Recovery Console. Choose the corresponding number asked of you for your OS is on, normally its #1 Then type:

Attrib -H -R -S C:\Boot.ini
DEL C:\Boot.ini
BootCfg /Rebuild
Fixboot

[Ryvita]

What if I have rebooted... ? Also bear in mind I have a USB keyboard (No bios access), SATA drives (unreadable outside windows?), no windows CD to hand and no floppy drive... I'm screwed aren't I?

UnBELEIVABLE levels of fail by CCP. Not looking forward to the hordes of WoW etc. players pointing and laughing. :(

[Aardvark]

If you rebooted then you should keep reading until it gets to the bit about what to do if you rebooted ;)

e: no windows CD to hand? Thats almost as careless as CCPs error. Beg/borrow/steal one, you need it.

[kandy]

Ryv, download the .iso of this and burn it to CD:

http://gag.sourceforge.net/

This is a standalone boot manager and should allow you to boot your PC and fix the boot.ini file.

[Aardvark]

Ryv, download the .iso of this and burn it to CD:

http://gag.sourceforge.net/

This is a standalone boot manager and should allow you to boot your PC and fix the boot.ini file.

Except he won't know what should be in the file, he needs to go through windows setup to repair it properly.

[Ryvita]

I have Pumpkin on MSN advising. I suspect a hax plan is in the works.

Could I just reiterate my love for the MPUK community. You guys are the best! Group Hug! <3

[Aardvark]

I still maintain that having a windows cd to hand would have been the smart play :arms:

[kandy]

If you were to install and use GAG permanently, you wouldn't actually need the boot.ini file anyway ;)

its an alternate bootloader and very simple to use.

[afty]

I still maintain that having a windows cd to hand would have been the smart play :arms:Not all PCs come with a Windows CD.

There are several ways to fix this, none of them simple. I will find Ryv via MSN.,

[Aardvark]

Never said it had to come with the PC did I? ;)

[Ryvita]

Never said it had to come with the PC did I? ;)

Do what you want 'coz a pirate is free! You... are... a pirate!

[Aardvark]

Do what you want 'coz a pirate is free! You... are... a pirate!

I think you'll find its quite easy for one to purchase a copy of Windows :arms:

[Joey[kins]]

i'm fairly sure that if you have an oem license sticker on your computer no-one is going to complain if you obtained alternate install media instead of relying on the gimped "recovery" media

[WhiteKnight]

Copying the windows CD is (or was) actually legal. You are paying for the license to use the software, the installation files are free.

[Deman]

That really is quite a horrendous **** up by CCP though.

Especially as it seems many like myself are returning to take a look.

[Ryvita]

They've fixed the issue now. Install files are safe, but yes. Huge, glaring, flashing lights publicity cock-up.

[kandy]

speaking of which..

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/06/eve_online_update_danger/

[Crea]

Is there an issue...? :D

[Aardvark]

Is there an issue...? :D

Mac users get out :arms:

[ez64]

thats disgusting, come one why even name somethign boot.ini for a windows instalation thats down right retarded.

[Silk75]

So I'll be screwed then? I updated before leaving for work at 8am.

Great, well done some numpty Icelander

[her0n]

/point
/lol

:hearts:

[kandy]

i wish in a way I never started playing just so I could wind Aard up with the WoW vs Eve jokes :p

[Dentist]

(Note that Windows Vista is not affected)

[Deman]

WinXP 64 not affected either :)

[Baroness]

This is the sort of thing that I'd do. MASSIVE computer-related incompetency. "Oh, did I break it? Sorry!"

I bet some poor sod is getting shouted at right now. Schoolboy error or what.

[Aardvark]

i wish in a way I never started playing just so I could wind Aard up with the WoW vs Eve jokes :p

Would work well, the only problem is the WoW installer is even worse because when you're done, you have WoW on your machine :psy:

[afty]

So I'll be screwed then? I updated before leaving for work at 8am.Only if you turned your computer off, or rebooted it for some reason...

It's fairly easy to fix, given a boot CD, Windows original or repair CD, or a second PC you can plug the hard drive into...

[Ryvita]

Did someone let Wizzo touch the firewall, I mean, Icelandic software company?

[Aardvark]

So I'll be screwed then? I updated before leaving for work at 8am.

Great, well done some numpty Icelander
If you downloaded the patch after 4am GMT you should be fine apparently:

http://www.eve-online.com/news/newsOfEve.asp?newsID=500

[Nelix]

:( Well this is my introduction post.

I was the 13th person loged into the server once it come back up from the downtime.
Played it for a while looked around, and then shut down and went to bed (All happy, I got new shinny ships :O)

Wake up go to work... Still all happy. Start to read the Eve-O forums... Start to cry!
I think to myself, "I've had a screwed computer at home and its just sitting there". My pride and joy is just sitting there dead!

Oh by the way, Hi! :)

[Aardvark]

I was the 13th person

You had NO chance :p

[WhiteKnight]

lol

[ccxo]

Well found the lovely post this afternoon but pc was fine thank god to backup files- its pretty easy to sort out but what a cock up by ccp.

Small mistake but it shouldn't happen, compensation is needed for the community especially on such a large expansion.

[Nelix]

You had NO chance :p

Thanks for the vote of confidance :)

[Nexus]

What if I have rebooted... ? Also bear in mind I have a USB keyboard (No bios access), SATA drives (unreadable outside windows?), no windows CD to hand and no floppy drive... I'm screwed aren't I?

UnBELEIVABLE levels of fail by CCP. Not looking forward to the hordes of WoW etc. players pointing and laughing. :(

I've been playing eve for 3 years or so and its about par for the course - their QA is non-existant which is why i only re-activate once every few months to see if its improved - I guess i should take another look at the premium client. From what i've read if u do a full install from premium client its fine its only if u do an upgrade.it cocks up, and then only if eve resides on same drive as your OS.

[ccxo]

EVE only cocks up if u upgraded in game before 4gmt today- all been sorted now.

[kalleth]

FYI i'm having a rather interesting discussion about this (and possible legal ramifications) right now on SA where i seem to be getting flamed to hell.

Feel free to add your two cents: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=336759484#post336759484

[Dentist]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/verone3784/nom.jpg

[Aardvark]

FYI i'm having a rather interesting discussion about this (and possible legal ramifications) right now on SA where i seem to be getting flamed to hell.

Feel free to add your two cents: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=336759484#post336759484

Cents added, disagreeing with you, agreeing with fatbrant :shobon:

[Ryvita]

I was the 13th person loged in

Did you log in in the thirteenth minute? :)

Hi, by the way.

[Nikumba]

This only is a problem if you install Eve to your C: drive

[Aardvark]

This only is a problem if you install Eve to your C: drive

Not strictly true, its if you install Eve to your Windows drive.

[Omnituens]

oddly enough, i was thinking of returning to eve... good job a thought about it before installing it.

[Aardvark]

oddly enough, i was thinking of returning to eve... good job a thought about it before installing it.

Nah you were ok, the bad patcher was taken down at 4am.

[Nikumba]

Not strictly true, its if you install Eve to your Windows drive.

Oh ok Mr picky :)

[Killy]

I play WoW and have nothing against EVE, I do however like to annoy Aardvark so I *AM* going to point and laugh just for him ;)

[Semajal]

Well considering they had it listed as WARNING! and had removed the offending code within hours? Or faster? Mistakes do happen and yeah, EPIC COCKUP! But the graphics are shiney (or will be when my PC works again).

So yeah anyone who updated between 2 and 4am will have trouble but its fixable. Anyone going "waaa legal we want money" can go and fo. Isnt it 80 man years of worth that has gone into this?

[Aardvark]

Between 8pm and 4am, as the DT finished early ;)

[Ryvita]

Well, to update, it would seem that the healing power of the MPUK community's combined IT genius can now function as remote admin tech support.

With zero intervention, the PC booted, showing "Invalid Boot.ini, booting from C:\Windows\" I will be contacting the vatican to see if this counts as a miracle attributable to Afty, Pumpkin et al who helped.

Cheers guys.

Ryv

[Aardvark]

I believe in the absence of boot.ini it looks for a Windows install on the first partition and uses that.

[Ryvita]

So basically, dramabomb over. :) I will admit to a certain amount of relief though.

[Towneh]

This is one of the reasons I never install anything on my 15gb system (c drive) partition. I treat it a lot like the /boot partition in linux, keep it small, keep out of it :p

/me strokes D:, E:, F:, G:, H: and I: drives :D

[gemini]

To kalleth

With regards to your other thread, no I dont think anyone could claim any legal action against CCP for this.

The legal action you are speaking of would be for inconveniance as a result of loss of data.

Seeing as no data is lost and files are recoverable, there would be no grounds whatsoever for that kind of suit. The only thing I could think of that you could sue for would be the cost of having someone else fix your computer and recover your data. Which personally, I would say isnt worth it.

[Thrud]

Of course, why, oh why would the players of Eve want to sue CCP, surely you wouldn't want to risk shutting down the makers of a game you love playing?

[WhiteKnight]

Dedicated players wouldnt. But there are going to be at least a reasonable amount of people who decided to play only recently. They might be pissed enough to try it on.

[Deman]

Not to mention the agreement you accept everytime you install a new patch.

[afty]

surely you wouldn't want to risk shutting down the makers of a game you love playing?I'd happily take a million quid, thanks. :)