Sven XP Mod

[AdamR]

I'm going to try out the suggested Sven XP mod, which is basically an RPG addon to Sven Co-op. You gain experience by killing enemies, and eventually levels.

There are 1800 levels to get (long time!), giving you 1800 available upgrades.

Say selectskills in game to select some upgrades.

Levels are saved on the server, but are not shared across other servers. This means if you get 50 levels on the classic server, they won't appear on the custom or fun server, but will still be on the classic server for next time you play there.

Any thoughts on this?

[Gore]

Yep a couple :)

First of all, this mod can be a lot of fun and it certainly adds more interest to Sven as a whole, because you actually get reward for kills rather than just a high score.

But.. it's certainly open to abuse (just think secrethunt2_r and secretcity4beta for starters) and i've even seen people repeatedly vote a map such as osprey, and then kill the sci's and rape the osprey with a minigun over and over.

On the plus side, the XP servers seem more popular than regular ones.

[AdamR]

I've always had my concerns for "fun" type maps too, when it comes to gravity. Currently, I've not worked out a solution to disable certain skills for some maps; which would require plugin modification.

Can you kill scientists any more? I turned off all friendly fire, unless certain maps decide to turn it back on.

[X25killa]

Ask the =CATS= admin liv3d who uses this XP mod on his own personal sven server.

I send you a PM.

the XP servers seem more popular than regular ones.

I agree with this.
Server with no XP mod = Standard amount of players.
Server with XP mod = Booming mass of players.

[liv3d]

Ask the =CATS= admin liv3d who uses this XP mod on his own personal sven server.


/me runs and hides before getting asked!


I agree with this.
Server with no XP mod = Standard amount of players.
Server with XP mod = Booming mass of players.

Actually, we found no XP mod, means NO players, the spirit of Sven appears to be dying in favour of XP :/

[AdamR]

Agree there. Very few players came without XP mod, despite how good the hardware is.

I kinda like XP mod, but I think I'll modify the plugin a bit so I can disable the gravity booster on some maps.

[AdamR]

Handing out AR grenades via the ammo recreation while holding the MP5 is now disabled by popular demand.

You can still receive them through the completely random ammo recreation handouts, but it will be rare.

[jockmo42]

Sorry for the giant bump, everyone, but I was wondering where I could find this mod for my server. Can anyone tell me?

Thanks.

[AdamR]

You need to install AMX mod X (http://www.amxmodx.org) first then slap in the Sven Co-op XP mod from here (http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=44168&highlight=sven).

[TrueHeretic]

I think that the XP mod has improved things quite a lot. You still get the regular kill-stealers you do with normal Sven, but once you complete the objective of a map many many times, it just isn't fun any more.

XP mod has made it more fun to go back and do levels with new skills, and makes it a different experience each time you play it!

I have noticed that there seems to be a lot of "osprey raping" going on, but it doesn't really bother me. Leaves all the real enemies, which are fun to fight, to those who play for the experience, rather than the EXP (if you get what I mean ;-) )

[AdamR]

Glad to hear you enjoy it :)

I've done some ripent's recently to lower osprey whoring.

[cyberdaemon]

Just tell me wtf is "XP whoring" ? When i play alone and vote a map full of monsters to get my level higher ? Or when i sit in certain place that has constantly respawning enemies instead of helping to progress the map ? Or when i somehow steal the XP ? How do you do that ? Right now i have NO idea what means "XP Whoring" and server gives you NO information!

[liv3d]

Pretty much what you just said.

Its abusing (alot of) respawning monsters to gain an unfair advantage with the experiance system. Also playing secret maps which have huge points given out.

[TrueHeretic]

I've noticed people voting in maps that have no plot and just have people shooting monsters that respawn all the time. The maps never seems to end, and people seem to know where all the egons (gluon guns) are... or are given them...

[cyberdaemon]

But then why not to take these maps away from server ? Anyway , i dont see anything wrong in playing alone.If i have no other people in server.

[AdamR]

I'd say XP whoring is when you put gaining XP at a higher priority than teamwork and objectives.

For example, sitting under an osprey wing with a minigun for 10 minutes only to vote a different osprey map and do the same thing 3 more times is complete abuse. That's why on maps like sc_cliffside and last4 I have moved the minigun elsewhere making it much harder to reach.

Worse still, people who vote for secrethunt2_r or splatter over and over just to do the high point tasks. Some maps do get modified, but we can't go removing every other map unless it really is designed as an XP whore map (i.e. splatter).