My Pre-Ordered PS3.....You want it? [Archive]

RatMonkey

22nd March 2007, 18:48

a bit of both really, thought i'd order it cause i wouldn't mind one (even if a bit expensive!), and if i couldn't afford it then i'd sell it.....turns out I can't really afford it (not without overdraft ;) ) and I don't want to waste my deposit now.....I put it on Ebay, all set for auction to end at 9.30 am tomorrow, it was the perfect set up but then they cancelled my auction for some bizaar reason?! (Think it was cause i said i'd accept PayPal OR cheque and they want you to use PayPal onle (I do not know why!, maybe cause they know it will be quite a large price and therefore if you use paypal they get a cut of everybody's profit!!!! Fookin Greedy B*stards!!!)
Anyway that's why, you want it? or know anyone that does?!!
Absolute Bargain for £550..... :)

Nick69

22nd March 2007, 18:58

They cancelled your auction becuase you cant sell items you dont have. The PS3 is not yours YET.

RatMonkey

22nd March 2007, 19:16

it says on their rules that you can as long as its 30 days before the release date and you picture your reservation/reciept (which i did!)......

JeRkY

22nd March 2007, 19:24

either way, judging by the "success" in other countries, come saturday morning sony will be bribeing people to take one home ;)

RatMonkey

22nd March 2007, 19:31

lol, looks like that might be the case.....

her0n

22nd March 2007, 19:41

They cancelled your auction becuase you cant sell items you dont have. The PS3 is not yours YET.

I sold my 5 preordered WoW Collectors Editions, auctions finished a day before I was due to receive my goods.
Ebay didn't cancel any of them. I got my goods, made some fast cash, I was happy ;)

RatMonkey

22nd March 2007, 19:47

think i might just go to Game at midnight tonight (official release!?!) and see if anyone around wants to pay me for it there.....maybe there's some chancers, lol....fingers crossed!

Nick69

22nd March 2007, 20:07

Fair enough I stand corrected. Good luck selling it. My mate gets his tonight.

Semajal

22nd March 2007, 20:12

i know sony are really arsey about people selling their stuff, might be they pressure ebay into taking down pre sale auctions.

Jazza

23rd March 2007, 08:26

It's not like they are selling out of PS3's though

http://www.flickr.com/photos/fozi999/429443942/

;)

though it sounds like those who waited in line in London got a good deal. Buy a PS3, and sony gave them a 48" HDTV and a free taxi home ;)

RocketKnight

23rd March 2007, 08:42

There won't be a shortage of PS3s, *unless* Sony deliberately create a shortage to claim it to be a sell out success. Here's why:

1. Games are average at best.
2. It's gimped compared to the PS3 overseas.
3. HD gaming is all well and good but Europe hasn't properly adopted HD technology yet, we only just began switching over to digital TV. You can't make that a selling point just yet, especially as a lot of your games don't run in the resolutions you claim.
4. It's really, REALLY expensive.
5. BluRay, lol.
6. Competition: The Wii launch was a huge success, Xbox 360 is comparable to the PS3 in terms of games and is well established with a lower price tag. And of course you could get a 360 AND a Wii for that price, or one of those and a load of games.
7. It didn't sell out overseas, why should it here?

Those are just a few reasons off the top of my head. I'm guessing anyone who has bought a PS3 in the hopes of making a profit is going to be disappointed.

Big Giant Head

23rd March 2007, 08:59

Judging by sales here I would say it has not sold out - All the shops yesterday had "open at midnight - come early or you won't get one" signs outside, meaning they hadn't sold out on pre-order.

And this morning they all have great big stacks in their windows, with PS3 HERE! signs, amusing right under the Wii SOLD OUT signs.

Zatoichi.uK

23rd March 2007, 09:30

How long before a price drop then guys? Probably ages knowing sony.

I'd pay £300 if some decent games were out but it doesn't, and there aren't...

/goes off to check backward compatibility list...

Aardvark

23rd March 2007, 11:47

though it sounds like those who waited in line in London got a good deal. Buy a PS3, and sony gave them a 48" HDTV and a free taxi home ;)
Yes, they totally surprised the people queuing when they announced that, its not like they told them several hours earlier so they could tell their mates, ensuring a nice big queue for the official PR photos :rolleyes:

23rd March 2007, 12:15

They don't deserve to sell any the way they have treated Europeans like second rate citizens, they can stick either PS3's up their arses along with their "don't mind waiting" statements.

Jazza

23rd March 2007, 15:24

According to Phil Harrison,

"This is the third continent out of three, but it is the most important," he told our sister site GamesIndustry.biz. "It's got most countries, it's the most people, it's the most cultures...
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=74494

They don't deserve to sell any the way they have treated Europeans like second rate citizens, they can stick either PS3's up their arses along with their "don't mind waiting" statements.

23rd March 2007, 15:29

It's soooo important they CBA to release it till what 6 months after it was released else where, because they think we dont mind waiting:
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=68422

Freelance

23rd March 2007, 20:59

i take it you don't like PR people steve?

24th March 2007, 00:18

I wont answer that with the small amount of alcohol I've had this evening at it may get messy :P

JeRkY

24th March 2007, 06:59

did an online stock check on argos stores in a 40 mile radius of my postcode 6 stores in total.... every one of them has stock available for store collection/delivery.

They really aren't selling fast.

rick_2k

24th March 2007, 07:42

Havent you thought stock supply might be a little bigger here..

I know for sure the companys think it is.

360 launch - Every shop was pissed about getting 1-2 consoles each if you are lucky!
ps3 launch - They are spoilt for choice and very happy as they can get alooooad of stock in. tescos for god sake had 50 in my local store! game had 160 and currys i work in even we had like 30 which is strange considering we ger 1 wii a month and like 5 360's

Wp sony for actually manufacturing your consoles not just leaving people pissed they cant get there hands on one. There is nothing good about being sold out.

JeRkY

24th March 2007, 08:24

the initial opening deliveries of wii's to the likes of tesco's etc were in the same region of 50-100 per store in the opening days of the release. they all sold in mere hours,

If your tesco's and seemingly every argos in the country still has stock on day 1 of the ps3 release, then your right, its either well done sony for supplying thousands of units to each store to meet the demand, or its oh dear sony, maybe you cocked up a litlle here.

Demondan

24th March 2007, 09:22

Wp sony for actually manufacturing your consoles not just leaving people pissed they cant get there hands on one. There is nothing good about being sold out.

Well it's cheaper for them and they don't have to worry about the emo chip...plus they have had about 12months+ to perfect the console production for europe...sure everyone could have stock in europe if they left us waiting that long...or maybe it's the price tag thats more than a mortgauge payment for me is putting off the 'family' market and usually the ones that go mad for em.

The grey market (ie ebay) after 1 week in the states was dead and they were making a loss on the units they tried to sell.

Aardvark

24th March 2007, 09:56

http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/uploaded_images/hdpiechart-737353.jpg

Deman

24th March 2007, 10:59

Why pre-order when you can walk into any hmv, woolworths, game etc and just buy one cause there not selling...

24th March 2007, 11:18

Do I detect you laughing and pointing fingers at sony there Deman :)

RocketKnight

24th March 2007, 11:30

The PS3 launch in Europe is officially a flop and you can find loads of the 60gb version on Ebay for less than £400.

Hi, Im collecting a preordered Playstation 3 TONIGHT (22nd), guarenteed to get one, does anyone want to buy it from me?.....it is the 60G one with a controller and 2 games.....£550 ono....

Ouch. I hope you didn't pay more than £400 for the hardware or you won't be getting your money back let alone make any profit...

Aardvark

24th March 2007, 11:52

You won't make your money back on a PS3 atm, there's just too many of them about.

RatMonkey

24th March 2007, 17:52

Just thought i'd let you all know, I decided not to bother getting the PS3 in the end, Bad investment methinks! - I'll let som other mug buy it, lol

Cabe

24th March 2007, 18:13

http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/uploaded_images/hdpiechart-737353.jpg

It would appear that pie chart was made by a sony employee, clearly they dont understand that 50% /= 75%

Semajal

24th March 2007, 19:26

cabe has a point :)

Demondan

24th March 2007, 20:00

The grey market bottomed out in the states as well in about 2 weeks from the stats I've heard...I think the UK market probably whole of europe has bottomed out on about day 2-3.

Went into Argos in Birmingham today to pick a Wii (yes I found one by randomly searching argos website late last night!!!) and this one indian teenager appeared to be buying his PS3 with his whole family there...guess it's a major investment ...didnt see any games though...

24th March 2007, 20:09

I'm sure its wrong to be loving all this but I think Sony really had it coming and it great to see them on the verge of failure after all their arrogance.

Semajal

24th March 2007, 20:10

also love microsofts anti Sony stuff :) the Xbox boat and Xbox seats.

Siany

25th March 2007, 19:47

Tbh I'd definitely have preordered a PS3 if I got a tip-off from a Sony employee about the 46" TVs. Then I'd sell said PS3 on ebay and have an HDTV for only about £200; bargain ;)

Jez_Gafys

26th March 2007, 07:19

Sounds like everywhere as more that enough stock though, gunna be hard to shift for profit. My brother-in-law went into Gamestation on Sunday and bought one no issues.

Jez_Gafys

26th March 2007, 08:49

He is just telling me now how good they are. He paid 288 quid for it + two games (got F1 and Virtua Tennis, Motorstorm was out of stock)

He traded in his Wii and 2 games. He does say the graphics are out of this world but did says its not quite as good as FEAR all full graphics, but would have to compare to fear on the ps3 to get a proper comparison

Deman

26th March 2007, 10:05

Virtua Tennis 3 is a direct conversion from xbox 360 version. F1 was actually jerky when I played on it and Ridge Racer 7 had graphic glitching. Shocking.

Now I loved the Playstation and 2 but so far they need to seriously work on better games releases.

afty

26th March 2007, 10:43

Sony is an intensely anti-customer company - it's good to see backlash like this, the market may actually work (just so long as people don't go "oooh shiny" if they do get it right with something...).

In other news, how easy is it to get hold of a cheap Wii these days?

no friends

26th March 2007, 10:54

On the radio t'other day, they had an article about the PS3, some chappy said "It has the best line up of release games for any console ever"
...
What does that tell us about the buyers? :|

JeRkY

26th March 2007, 11:04

Theres no such thing as a cheap wii (new atleast). They still pretty much sell out as soon as they go on the shelves.

Ebay may offer a cheaper route to a wii.

pen

27th March 2007, 23:29

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6499841.stm

Baz

27th March 2007, 23:49

who knew 165,000 stupid people had so much money?

Aardvark

27th March 2007, 23:50

Hey look, I spy 165,000 lossmaking ebay auctions... :D

rick_2k

28th March 2007, 00:45

you guys suck ;P seriously

/me hides :o

28th March 2007, 01:18

lol, dont believe that for a single second.

JeRkY

28th March 2007, 08:39

/me ponders if the crime statistics for house burglary & muggings went up in the weeks before the PS3's release in order to fund 164,500 brainless chavs to buy a ps3.

Valane

28th March 2007, 13:16

For a technology orientated community, alot of you aren't making alot of sense right now.

I doubt many of you have bought products in the PC market with less features, less technological advancement and less hardware just to save a few pounds... and you join the fanboys of rival consoles in the immature insults, "chav this", "ebay that" and "stupid them" when Sony manage to begin showing there quality.

Semajal

28th March 2007, 13:27

Its partly annoyance at the way sony tend to treat their customers. Then somehow the news come up with rubbish such as "best launch line up ever" and all sorts of stuff about how amazing all the games are. Hell the line up i saw contained only 2 games that wern't sequals. Was all 2/3/4/5/5 for the games.

Deman

28th March 2007, 13:42

Yes Valane most people on here probably do buy a lot of high tech stuff for there PC's. The key being PC market is very well developed and people are buying to upgrade for an already well established market.

The PS3 market is new and as yet offers hardly anything in the way of games that can not already be played on the pc / ps2 / xbox 360 / wii. Sure the hardware is fantastic but it's pretty pointless without a games market to go with it that is not unique.

The Wii brought with it a new innovative control system along with a unique gaming experience and unique games. Which is why people support it so much instead of the same old tripe like ridge racer being re-hashed to make you spend £500.

ccxo

28th March 2007, 17:23

Well when the PS3 big game titles roll out later this year, all the criticisms will all go away as they did for the playstation and PS2.

higgeh

29th March 2007, 07:47

we're not fanboys we're now just looking for something different. everytime playstation brings out a new console its jus the same with better graphics.

the xbox 360 was a nice console with the good hard drives (microsoft trait) confortable controllers and wireless. also it wires through ur pc and for 240 quid (i think) isnt too pricey. i know someone who bought one as a media centre

the wii however is the most fun i have ever had on a console and tbh i think we have only seen half of what nintendo has planned. so it doesnt play dvds (www.tesco.com dvd player for 29 quid) but who can say they play tennis in there front room. i recently attended playtime-gaming lan and they had a wii tournament as an ice breaker (60 people) it was tennis doubles and i was surprised to see everyone playing, i mean everyone playing, and the guys who won it had only come up to see what the fuss was about. we are no longer a "ooooooooooo look at the graphics society" especially when we are all pc owners (pc always has better graphics) and everyone is just looking for that something different

PS3 is a big console. im sure its been referred to as a george foreman. and i gave a salesman in pc world (i like to laugh at them) a chance to try and sell me one. he put on f1 and shown me the controller rotating. i had a shot and it was very uncomfortable. he then shown me the blue ray player which was nice but i watch tv on daily motion im not bothered about quality. also then i would have to change my full catalogue of dvd's. everyone remember the psp how many UMD's were released? i was then told the tv the guy had it on cost £2500. sorry i think its a flop and im not impressed

Semajal

29th March 2007, 08:30

That is true the secret point with HD is that to enjoy it you need a big HDTV and that then means spending £500-600 more on top of £500 for the console. For that you could already get a high spec PC with a TFT. I think the PS3 will probably still sell pretty well due to the simple fact that it is shiney.

TheDon

29th March 2007, 12:30

The ps3 is an amazing piece of kit, and IMO is worth the price they are asking for it (Who here would actually spend less on a gaming pc? I know pcs can do so much more, but we're talking half the price of a high end gaming pc) especially when you compare it to the price of just a bluray player.

The problem I have with it is the pathetic launch lineup, the constantly recycled franchises, and the "Europe is the most important continent.... oh whoops, we delayed the launch there by 6 months dispite going on for over a year about how it'd be a simultanious world launch!"

The ps3 gives nothing new, it's recycled games with updated graphics, and oh, the wii had a good idea with it's controllers, lets steal it! There isn't a single ounce of originality coming out of sony these days.

higgeh

29th March 2007, 12:31

The ps3 gives nothing new, it's recycled games with updated graphics, and oh, the wii had a good idea with it's controllers, lets steal it! There isn't a single ounce of originality coming out of sony these days.

This sums it up

Siany

29th March 2007, 14:21

There isn't a single ounce of originality coming out of sony these days.

Well there's Blu-ray...which is. unique ;)

Then again, HD technology is about a tenth* of the price and does exactly the same thing.

*Random guess :p

Qdos

29th March 2007, 15:03

Well when the PS3 big game titles roll out later this year, all the criticisms will all go away as they did for the playstation and PS2.

Most, if not all the big PS3 releases will be multiplatform. Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, Grand Theft Auto - all more than likely will be on 360 as well.

Nes

29th March 2007, 15:43

Most, if not all the big PS3 releases will be multiplatform. Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, Grand Theft Auto - all more than likely will be on 360 as well.

Metal gear solid won't be thankfully, but sony are losing alot more titles to the xbox though :(

I've been very happy with my ps3, i got f1 2006, resistance and rr7. Personally im happy with the games because they are games i like so for me the release titles are pretty good. I think it just depends on what you like, but there certainly isnt anything big like Halo. I think resistance is supposed to be their "big" game and to be fair it is pretty good so far. I don't normally like FPS' on consoles but i like this one.

I think alot of rubbish is being said about; "only chavs with too much money will buy ps3s" etc. Jerky will atest to me not being a chav :p: but i had some money saved up and tbh the quality of the graphics in resistance and especially f1 2006 are too good to pass up. f1 2006 looks almost real and for the games i do enjoy playing, its nice for them to look that good while i play them :)

Quietus

29th March 2007, 15:55

Jerky will atest to me not being a chav :p: )

You may not be a chav, but you'll always be a ninja-looter to me ;-P

spaz

29th March 2007, 16:05

I've got no qualms with the ps3, I want to get one, just cannot justify buying it at the price it is at the moment. It MAY offer good value for money with what you get, but when that price is very high whether it is VFM to me just doesn't matter any more.

Suprised the wii is still doing so well though, I got rid of mine after nearly all the games I was looking forward to in March had been put back and that you couldn't really relax to play a game.

In the mean time I shall be playing my 360 which I am enjoying immensely and will see how it pans out in the latest console war!

RatMonkey

2nd April 2007, 16:26

Haha, another point - Because Sony waited soooo long to release the PS3, the next xbox will be out in about another year or 2 (next PS3 has to wait for either 3 or 5 years (not sure which) it's due to some law that restricts the time between console releases...).....lol
RM

Elkeeed

2nd April 2007, 18:33

Despite the crazy price and all the naysaying it actually had an amazing launch weekend, looks like people were just waiting till it came out.

gemini

6th April 2007, 04:50

RatMonkey

7th April 2007, 17:31

So which part of that isn'ttrue then?, because the XBox 3 WILL be out within the next 2 years, and there is a law that resricts the amount of time between console releases, so.....WTF you on about :?

Big Giant Head

7th April 2007, 17:34

So which part of that isn'ttrue then?, because the XBox 3 WILL be out within the next 2 years, and there IS a law that resricts the amount of time between console releases, so.....WTF you on about :?

Which law would this be, I would be fascinated to know.

It's bad business to release them more often than that because users get annoyed buying new ones, you have game compatibility and development issues etc, but I can't think of any law restricting how often consoles can be created.

RatMonkey

7th April 2007, 17:52

I suppose it might be a guidline...:S ?

Deman

12th April 2007, 11:19

Are you aware the Bill Roper actually killed you at i30?

RocketKnight

12th April 2007, 11:24

Despite the crazy price and all the naysaying it actually had an amazing launch weekend, looks like people were just waiting till it came out.
Did it? I'd like to see some evidence of that. In the mean time, here's evidence of the complete opposite:

http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/

RatMonkey

13th April 2007, 03:34

Are you aware the Bill Roper actually killed you at i30?

Huh??

rick_2k

13th April 2007, 06:07

Did it? I'd like to see some evidence of that. In the mean time, here's evidence of the complete opposite:

http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/
uk resistance lol...........

Why is everybody so hell bent on becuase the ps3 is in stock its bad?

I mean what is out of stock good now? The 360 being out of stock put me back buying it for over a year... it definatly wasnt fun not being able to get one without paying crazy ebay prices...

The wii is just making a massive hype cloud around it.. HEY IT MUST BE SO GOOD BECUASE ITS OUT OF STOCK thing going on which is insain. I heard nintendo are just holding back stock.. not sure if thats true but all that comes from this is hype... and if the consoles **** then its **** they will realise that sooner or later so in the end its pointless.

I know alot of wii owners are shooting themselfs in the foot right now once they realise in the most part the console is a gimick for such a high price!
only possible thing it has over other consoles is for games at partys etc other than that its a repackaged gamecube with a motion controller!

I really just cant get behind what makes people hate the ps3 so much.. one thing i have noticed is alot of them are pc gamers .. maybe microsoft have some crazy brainwashing going on in windows :D

RocketKnight

13th April 2007, 07:14

uk resistance lol...........

Why is everybody so hell bent on becuase the ps3 is in stock its bad?

I linked that website because Demondan said the PS3 had an 'amazing launch weekend'. It really, REALLY didn't, and if you look past the stock figures on the UK Resistance website you'll see photographs, videos and links to external websites demonstrating nobody turning up to any of the European launch parties.

The stock figures are relevant because (as seen in the photos) they never sold the pre-order stock. Since then the stock levels have continued to rise. They're hardly selling any, despite what they'd like you to believe.

I really just cant get behind what makes people hate the ps3 so much..
Personally, I don't hate the PS3. I dislike Sony though, but that wouldn't stop me from thinking one of their products was good. However, the PS3 doesn't have anything special. All they've done is throw horse power at the problem. Nintendo, however, have been innovative and actually tried to satisfy their customers. Nintendo kit is outselling Sony kit in Japan, America, and Europe, and I enjoy seeing a company that cares about its customers reaping the rewards.

Aardvark

13th April 2007, 07:41

The point with the Wii is that while its out of stock all over the place, its STILL outselling the PS3...

I think this is all just an elaborate ploy by Sony to **** the ebayers tbh :D

Deman

13th April 2007, 09:24

Huh??

A boss type mob in Hellgate: London that Bill Roper presented at i30 was a Rat Monkey, and Bill went forth and chopped you to pieces.

Zatoichi.uK

13th April 2007, 09:59

I'm looking forward to getting a PS3 tbh. I'll probably wait until way later in the year when (hopefully) a price drop occurs and some decent games are out.

GTA4 anyone? Im saving for a 1080p TV, should be worth it in the end I hope...

Deman

16th April 2007, 08:03

GTA4 will also be released on the xbox 360 same day.

So far only Gran Tourismo and Metal Gear Solid are the only ones i know of being solely PS3.

Valane

16th April 2007, 08:58

Nes

16th April 2007, 13:01

and the playstation has free online play :)

Jazza

16th April 2007, 13:28

True, but it doesn't have the matchmaking, persistent online functions that Live does, unified friends list, voice messaging.

I think this sums it up well, from Paul Thurrott's WinSuperSite (http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/ps3.asp) review of the PS3

It's completely free (though individual game publishers can apparently charge customers on a per-game basis), but it also exists in a sort of disconnected state, especially if you're used to the wonders of Xbox Live. What I mean by this is that while you can download content from the PlayStation Store via your PS3 console, and compete against other gamers in online matches, and construct lists of friends and blocked users, all of these things exist completely separately from each other. If you're playing, say, Call of Duty 3, your friends can't logon, start up a game of Resistance, see that you're in a different game, and send you an invite. Instead, these experiences are all completely separate. In the Xbox 360 world, everything is inter-connected, and the scenario I just outlined is not just possible, it happens all the time. You might be watching a TV show in the 360's Media Center Extender experience and be invited to chat, or to play a game. It's a feature I really miss on the PS3, and it makes each game on that console feel really separated. There's no cohesive, collected world out there tying it all together.

and the playstation has free online play :)

RocketKnight

16th April 2007, 17:27

The playstation 3 is a superior console, you get more power, more functionality including a high definition player and (eventually) the feature of the entire PS1/PS2 back catalogue.
I think those reasons for it being a good console are also reasons why it has launched so poorly. Powerful yes, but just like the PS2 launch nobody has really utilised that power; it's all multi-platform titles. The high def player is possibly a doomed format, and few people here can actually use it because HDTVs and Bluray discs are expensive and haven't been adopted yet. While it will eventually play previous Playstation titles it doesn't do that now.

It will be a good console in the future, when these launch issues are overcome and the price has dropped. However if I was Sony, I'd be worried about what the competition will do during that time. Nintendo will be releasing their online connectivity soon and given the success of some of their titles, making them multiplayer is going to be huge. Microsoft's already fantastic Live network has growing multimedia capability and I'm tempted to buy one everytime I see an advert. Seems to me Sony will be playing catch up with it's competitors for some time.

RatMonkey

23rd April 2007, 16:04

A boss type mob in Hellgate: London that Bill Roper presented at i30 was a Rat Monkey, and Bill went forth and chopped you to pieces.

Ahhhh, My name is based on the Sumatran RatMonkey from the film: Braindead
http://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/11/10/19/92/th/ratmon10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=2&u=11101992)
As for the PS3's Free Live, I heard a roumor on Live that Xbox live may well be free in the near future....Also the 360's HD DVD player is out now (£79.99 I think...) so PS3 only really has the Uprated performance, and I'm sure that they havn't reached the the true top end of performance on the 360 yet, they don't even fill the discs!, i don't think that they even knowhow to make a game to match the performance of the PS3 console, and won't for a long time.....
RM

Elkeeed

23rd April 2007, 18:31

I think those reasons for it being a good console are also reasons why it has launched so poorly. Powerful yes, but just like the PS2 launch nobody has really utilised that power; it's all multi-platform titles. The high def player is possibly a doomed format, and few people here can actually use it because HDTVs and Bluray discs are expensive and haven't been adopted yet. While it will eventually play previous Playstation titles it doesn't do that now.

It will be a good console in the future, when these launch issues are overcome and the price has dropped. However if I was Sony, I'd be worried about what the competition will do during that time. Nintendo will be releasing their online connectivity soon and given the success of some of their titles, making them multiplayer is going to be huge. Microsoft's already fantastic Live network has growing multimedia capability and I'm tempted to buy one everytime I see an advert. Seems to me Sony will be playing catch up with it's competitors for some time.

The PS2 suffered from the same drawbacks and then went onto be the best selling console of all time. It also gives the PS formats an advantage of longevity because they are notoriously hard to program for and the standard of games will increase for longer than the other consoles.

RocketKnight

23rd April 2007, 18:45

What you have to remember though is that the PS2 had an advantage that the PS3 doesn't: a lack of competition. The PS2 didn't see rivals until a year later in the form of the Gamecube and the XBox, and I think we'd all agree they weren't offering anything that the PS2 wasn't. This time however, the PS3 has launched after the competition. Given the competition can offer innovation / features that the PS3 can't I don't think it can afford to be difficult to program for this time around.

Rookie_42

23rd April 2007, 22:02

IMO Sony were lucky to get any sales at all from the PS3 in the UK, and the ones they did get were either from:

a) Die-hard Sony fanboys
b) Those in need of a cheap Blu-Ray player
c) Those who wanted a free 46" HDTV

Now don't get me wrong - my mate has a PS3, I've seen it in action and IMO it really is an amazing bit of kit. If it wasn't for the insane pricing and inept launch scheduling/public relations departments at Sony then in all likelihood it would have been much more of a success at launch, perhaps even outdoing the 360. But it wasn't. Crying shame, really.

Qdos

25th April 2007, 05:11

[QUOTE=RatMonkey;629129] I heard a roumor on Live that Xbox live may well be free in the near future..../QUOTE]

That's very very unlikely to happen - they're just about to introduce Live as a paid-for service to Vista users, no way will they drop the fee for Xbox users just as they're (possibly) about to get more takeup of Live on the 360 (as people go online to game with their PC buddies)

RatMonkey

26th April 2007, 07:36

I heard a roumor on Live that Xbox live may well be free in the near future..../QUOTE]

That's very very unlikely to happen - they're just about to introduce Live as a paid-for service to Vista users, no way will they drop the fee for Xbox users just as they're (possibly) about to get more takeup of Live on the 360 (as people go online to game with their PC buddies)

GRRRR, Don't get me started on Vista! LOL, As for the free live, it is a possibility, maybe they'll change it so the current free service (silver) is a bit more online capable, i.e. you might actually be able to play online/DL content with a free silver account (maybe not all games, just arcade or something...?) I dunno, pure speculation really, would be nice though....Either way I don't mind as £40 per year ain't too bad really for what you get....As long as they don't try to increase that!!!!.....:v
RM