KICKED & BANNED WITHOUT WARNING WHILST PLAYING SPEEDCAPS WITH OTHERS :(

[delmonty]

Hi all,

As you all know, I am a regular at the multiplay slv server & enjoy the fun it brings to me & the rest of us die hard UT'rs. I always have & always will play to the rules, albeit a bit of joking here & there. However I got kicked and banned whilst playing speedcaps with other fellow friends (MOD,drummer,Commander,Foul Pt) with no warning or explanation.

I find this quite appalling. I have many fellow UT friends who i'm sure will vouch for me & agree with me on the fact that I am not & ever have been a cheater. I hope to get this ban lifted & any further help from fellow members would be grateful.

Thank You


Pz all

[oxy]

(01:53:31) Said to MPUK|SLV: Boosting on this server Will get you Banned (By LG__)
(01:53:36) Said to MPUK|SLV: Boosting on this server Will get you Banned (By LG__)
(01:54:22) Said to MPUK|SLV: Do it and find out how (By LG__)
(01:56:51) Said to MPUK|SLV: Last time someone cheating by boosting got a server wide Ban for a month so think hard before you do this again (By LG__)
(01:58:43) Said to MPUK|SLV: yes now want to try for ban (By LG__)
(02:01:04) Said to MPUK|SLV: I don't want to see or hear any more talk about Boosting Period end of Discussion .Server logs will tell (By LG__)
(02:04:50) Said to MPUK|SLV: folks I kid you not keep screwing around trying to Break records by cheating and I will Ban you all .If i do you will not be getting back on (By LG__)

You had fair warning, now i leave it up to LG to comment on how long the ban will be.
prepare the excuses

[delmonty]

Im sorry, I didnt see the messages at all. If I had I would have stopped immediately. i was also not aware boosting was banned, but I do know now & it wont happen again. I sincerely didnt see nay of the admin messages on boosting.

Apologies

damanfromdelmonte

[Crazy-Drummer]

i was on the server at that time and after the admin got my attention with a kick ( its not always clear when an admin says something cause it comes up in white text for a short time) i asked what we were doing that would result in a ban, got the explanation and we all stopped at that moment.
Delmonte was already gone by that time.
I'm sorry for what happened and it won't happen again on my part that's for sure.

[shred_dog]

I know what many of us consider "boosting"... using a weapon like rockets or shock to move a flag carrier across the map faster, thus taking advantage of the "0 friendly fire" setting.

Is that illegal? Would an Admin mind defining exactly what is meant by "boosting"??? or is this more of the translocator/speedcap bug?

[[CoW]J-Raw]

Probaly a mix...

People will turn a blind eye to short-shock boosts but making the FC cover a large gap in a short period of time spoils the game. I guess it will vary.

Other boosting is flag boosting like on LOLMAN face, people will often deemer suicide on a high platform causing the flag to boost to their base, they respawn grab n' cap.

[delmonty]

hi again. I see now where I was at fault and I admit now I was at fault, I did ask for a boost whilst we were speed caps, but I was sincerely unaware of the rules surrounding this matter, however I am clear to them know & wont intentionally or unintentially break them again by boosting. I would like the ban to be lifted at all possible please, as I am not a cheater & 100% against anyone cheating on the server that brings me & other fellow SLV'rs much fun. Any chance of this happening soon pls?

ty

[shred_dog]

I can vouch for him too. Daman's not a cheater. He's a decent player and he's always been a good teammate.

I can see the point He and the others were making. A lot of times, when there's 3 people on the server, especially those of us who've been playing together for a long time, we'll just goof around and not play a serious game until enough show up for it. Daman is not a stats whore or record whore or anything like that. He's a good guy. I'm kinda bummed to see him banned.

While we're on it, is it against the rules for people (ie: me) to stand on top of the tower on CTF-Face and snipe for 15 mins to get the hardcore sniper record?

[Island Guy]

This is nothing new too you regular players on the SLV so don't play dumb about it .If memory serves me right a few of you got slaps on the fingers for this before . The fact that there are High score records on the server does not mean they are there to be broken using questionable tactics . Use of such tactics as boosting or other fast-cap exploits ,in my eyes spoil the game for others and is borderline cheating. This being said I'm not going to push for bans at this time . Fair warning just the same ,Next player caught at this work is through on all the CTF servers and maybe all servers .There are log records that can be used to show players exploiting these flaws in the game . Have no fear the next time it comes to my attention you can expect no warnings and there will be no Mercy .There will be bans issued and they will be for extended periods of time .So you all need to think real hard before trying them next time, as it will lead to you no longer playing on these servers for some time .I'm not trying to be an Ass about this but ,it's hardly fair to other players . Players spend countless hours getting good enough to be able to make records only to have a couple jokers smash the record by Cheating or exploiting map bugs. This is just not acceptable actions for these servers .Mind you some of you knew this already but went ahead and done it anyways . Players involved last night are as follows .You all have been warned now so no moaning next time when banned if it happens again .

MPUK|SLV HornD 217.255
MPUK|SLV kW|Angelus 83.22
MPUK|SLV Sickboy 68.47
MPUK|SLV delmonte(DEL) 82.38
MPUK|SLV its_MrDrummer_to_you 82.229
MPUK|SLV Commander-ITA 87.10

[Island Guy]

I can vouch for him too. Daman's not a cheater. He's a decent player and he's always been a good teammate.

I can see the point He and the others were making. A lot of times, when there's 3 people on the server, especially those of us who've been playing together for a long time, we'll just goof around and not play a serious game until enough show up for it. Daman is not a stats whore or record whore or anything like that. He's a good guy. I'm kinda bummed to see him banned.

While we're on it, is it against the rules for people (ie: me) to stand on top of the tower on CTF-Face and snipe for 15 mins to get the hardcore sniper record?

Why would you allow a sniper to spend that much time on the tower .Surely players with your skill would be able to take them out :) .personally i see nothing illegal about it sure it makes for a a pissy game . Unless they are killing re-spawning players not much can be said about them as they are breaking no rules i know of.Simple fix Kill them :) .There was a sniper rifle put into the game weapons to be used ,it wasn't added to the weapons just so it would be there . It amazes me all the people that moan about the sniper rifle .yet these same people figure it's OK to spam the flack gun or shock gun or spinning disk gun . It's all what ever a player becomes the best with .Everyone has a special weapon they are better with then others .

Just to set the record straight here it was not 3 players on the server it was 6 players so there are no excuses for these actions .

[Island Guy]

hi again. I see now where I was at fault and I admit now I was at fault, I did ask for a boost whilst we were speed caps, but I was sincerely unaware of the rules surrounding this matter, however I am clear to them know & wont intentionally or unintentially break them again by boosting. I would like the ban to be lifted at all possible please, as I am not a cheater & 100% against anyone cheating on the server that brings me & other fellow SLV'rs much fun. Any chance of this happening soon pls?

ty

I remember hearing this old song before .I do believe it was from the last time you were warned and banned. Your getting off lightly this time chief the ban will only last for a day . You can be assured that next time anything like this happens it will be a Very Very long time before you will get back here . So consider this your lucky day :) .

[delmonty]

Thx, but to my knowledge I have never been banned before nor here or on TRUFF, but fyi there wont be reason to ban me, I was unaware of the rules, but am aware now, so there wont be an issue in the future :)

[delmonty]

And for the record, we appreciate you listing us, but I would like to add we were not trying to exploit any bugs in the game or maps or SLV mod, we were sincerely just trying to beat the record, but we are aware now that by boosting (I/We) were at fault. This I appreciate is against the rules, and in future ignorance I will not use as an excuse. Thanks again for understanding :)

[Island Guy]

That's good to hear delmonty and i sincerely hope we never have to have this discussion again . Thanks for understanding the situation and being so calm about it . Enjoy the servers and Have a good day .

[delmonty]

Thanks guys i have been told i get a day or a weeks ban ( i hope its a day )

looking forward to owning u all again on a server close to here :D

[shred_dog]

Thanks guys i have been told i get a day or a weeks ban ( i hope its a day )

looking forward to owning u all again on a server close to here :D



lol Del. always such a GREAT (mislead) sense of humour. :)

bring it.

[Island Guy]

Thanks guys i have been told i get a day or a weeks ban ( i hope its a day )

looking forward to owning u all again on a server close to here :D

Have you tried joining the server today yet

[delmonty]

Hi , I have I keep getting Connection failed, so I can only assume that my ip is still blacklisted ;/

[Island Guy]

Hi , I have I keep getting Connection failed, so I can only assume that my ip is still blacklisted ;/

No you are not On any ban list . There were some problems with the server but seems to be working now .

[delmonty]

THX ALL I can connect will be on there shortly to kick ass :)

Big Respect to all those who help make this server what it is, Admins, players, spectators :)

Pz & Unity

damanfromdelmonte

PS. maybe its time for a new clan, anyone interested in joining lemme know :)

[Island Guy]

Anyone wanting info os this rule about Fast caps see here

http://forums.multiplay.co.uk/showthread.php?t=43397

[Crazy-Drummer]

I don't want to stir s*** up or anything but i didnt find any mention of boosting being a wrong thing to do. Perhaps you should add it here( http://forums.multiplay.co.uk/showthread.php?t=45326 ) so other players don't repeat our mistakes.

[Island Guy]

I don't want to stir s*** up or anything but i didnt find any mention of boosting being a wrong thing to do. Perhaps you should add it here( http://forums.multiplay.co.uk/showthread.php?t=45326 ) so other players don't repeat our mistakes.

Did you read it or just look at it . Was there some part of fastcaps are not permited said in the link i gave that you did not understand :) . Lets make it a bit clearer for you OK . FASTCAPING IS NOT ALLOWED PERIOD . You will be Banned if caught at it and believe me you will be caught . As for putting it in the rules .Well it's ovious you did not read them either .

Conduct

• Show respect for your fellow players - don't be abusive or use excessive swearing
• Promote fair and friendly play, Just because one person does it, doesn’t mean its ok for you to do it too!
• Keep the teams balanced, don't swap sides to play with your mates, You will be asked politely to change back three times, after the third attempt, a warning kick will be issued.
• More than 2 tagged clan members are NOT permitted on a server at one time, and then NOT on the same team, or playing together to disrupt fair play.
• NO cheating - cheats will be publicized in our channel, and on our new website.
• Do not misuse the !admin and kick vote tools on the servers, these are there to help, either by alerting the admins to a serious problem, (eg suspected cheater), or removing an abusive/disruptive/idle player yourselves
• Abuse of Map / Mod bugs, This is something that can ruin a game completely, And as such, Is not welcome on the servers, Any players caught doing so ( we have a means for spotting this) will be warned and then kicked, if you remain persistent, banned and made public!

You will also find what i have been telling you here http://forums.multiplay.co.uk/showpost.php?p=551358&postcount=27 and here http://forums.multiplay.co.uk/showpost.php?p=551360&postcount=28 So now you know and their will be no more excuses and zero tolerance for these actions from now on . Anyone found exploiting or teaching this bug to other players ,can expect to be removed from the server for Minimum of 2 months or longer . Ignorance of the rules is not an excuse .They are posted for all to see that cares to take the time to read them . Also the thread about Fastcaps has been posted in the forums for the past 3 months now . Try reading a little bit folks it just might save you from a Ban .

[[CoW]J-Raw]

I see what he means .. he said boosting not fast capping. There is nothing regarding boosting - unless you class it as "cheating" .. which is kinda vague.

but i didnt find any mention of boosting

[oxy]

OK .. now .. BOOSTING BAD NO NO! You have been warned!

[[CoW]J-Raw]

We know that .. but other people that read the rules wont :P

[Island Guy]

J-Raw;583468']We know that .. but other people that read the rules wont :P

What about the part

Promote fair and friendly play, Just because one person does it, doesn’t mean its ok for you to do it too!

OK for a lot of these thick headed players who figure every little detail needs to be written down . Any form of Lame play will get you a warning and if it continues will result in a Ban more then likely . If an Admin tells you something is not allowed then that means It's not allowed period and it's time to stop . There is no need for major discussions about this It's a very simple concept . If your told by an Admin to stop you best dam well stop . No one here gets kicked or banned without a previous warning . With myself I'm very stingy with my warnings .I'll give you one or on a good day two but that's it no more .If that's not enough to get the point across then you will be removed from server. If the action continues then you will face a Ban and you can bet your ass on that .

[[CoW]J-Raw]

First off I hope your not implying I'm a thick headed player... as I haven't broke any rules nor been banned.

"Promote fair and friendly play, Just because one person does it, doesn’t mean its ok for you to do it too!" barely ties in?

If it is written down in the first place an admin wouldn't need to tell people, I think you need to learn how to accept comments instead of biting everything you dont agree with, simply because you have some form of power..

Either way banned players are gonna keep coming back and claiming it's not against the rules if you don't ammend them. It desn't need to a be a damn law book just a bit more specific! I'm sure you could of editted the rules in less than 30 seconds to add something along the lines of "Do not flag boost"..

[Batty]

The problem is that no matter how you write rules, some people will try to find a bit that isn't said 'in so many words' and pull you up on that. If the rules get too long-winded no-one will bother to read them at all.

Some common sense things aren't in there - like groups of players shouldn't hound other players off the servers - it comes under the umbrella of 'fair and friendly play' as do so many other things.

Try writing a succinct, clear, sensible all-encompassing set of rules and you'll see just how difficult it can be. :)

[shred_dog]

uhh... jraw ... uh, dont poke the bear. please?

/me shudders

no problem. no boosting. got it.

[Crazy-Drummer]

Ok i guess i stired s*** up after all...

Message recieved, no boosting, Got it!

[[CoW]J-Raw]

Yeah I know what you mean .. every where seems to follow the same suit, but othe places boosting is allowed.. so it would be wise to add it?

I didn't poke the bear I just through a pebble from a large distance away :spinface:

[Island Guy]

J-Raw;583509']First off I hope your not implying I'm a thick headed player... as I haven't broke any rules nor been banned.

"Promote fair and friendly play, Just because one person does it, doesn’t mean its ok for you to do it too!" barely ties in?

If it is written down in the first place an admin wouldn't need to tell people, I think you need to learn how to accept comments instead of biting everything you dont agree with, simply because you have some form of power..

Either way banned players are gonna keep coming back and claiming it's not against the rules if you don't ammend them. It desn't need to a be a damn law book just a bit more specific! I'm sure you could of editted the rules in less than 30 seconds to add something along the lines of "Do not flag boost"..

No J-Raw not implying that at all but there are some .I'm refering to the ones that contiue to do things even after being told not to by a server Admin . As for the statement Either way banned players are gonna keep coming back and claiming it's not against the rules if you don't ammend them They might but not for long if they continue with their actions after being warned and banned then they will not be playing here period .

you say If it is written down in the first place an admin wouldn't need to tell people, I think you need to learn how to accept comments instead of biting everything you dint agree with, simply because you have some form of power.. What is the point of writing it down if when you tell them time after time and kick them time and time again and they don't listen . A warning from a server Admin to the fact should be more then sufficient unless they are real thick headed . If the warning is not enough then a short ban will most times do .Then you get the real winners that nothing you do or say sinks in they are the ones that makes it rough on the rest of you . As for the power aspect you figure we like to throw around that only comes into play when we get tired of saying the same thing over and over and over again and no one seems to listen . Then yes i do use my Admin powers and believe me when it gets to this point nothing short of a miracle is saveing them from a possible long Term Ban . If an Admin tells you something is against the rules then it is against the rules end of discussion regardless if it's written down or not . As for other places allowing boosting we are not other places we don't make their rules and they don't make the rules here plain and simple . You don't like the rules here then go to the other places folks it's a very simple concept . England drives on the left side of the road here in Canada we drive on right side of the road . If i went to England and hit someone while driveing on the wrong side of the road. Do you figure i could use the excuse that other places drive on that side of the road to get out of paying damages for the accident ,i doubt it . So there is no excuse so everyone may as well stop trying to think of one . Bottom line is it's not allowed here and that's the way it is . If your told by an Admin it's not allowed you can believe it's not allowed .

[[CoW]J-Raw]

I agree, although..

England drives on the left side of the road here in Canada we drive on right side of the road . If i went to England and hit someone while driveing on the wrong side of the road. Do you figure i could use the excuse that other places drive on that side of the road to get out of paying damages for the accident

Knowing our police they'd let you walk away.. jk.

Although they would say "Well well son, didn't you read the UK high way code/road law book where our rules are clearly written down" ;) You'd say no, I didn't read the MPUK rules, they'd say well its our servers agreement to do so. You get locked up, they come back when they learn the lesson on how to read the rules.:sconf:

[Island Guy]

That may be true but if they had just finished telling you it wasn't allowed ,I'm not so sure they would be so forgiving :) . This is turning into a soap opera just like the last time it was brought up . So final reminder if players are caught doing something after being told not they will just have to suffer the penalty :) . I'm not discussing this any further ,it's been explained very clearly . Now if players wish to continue with the Fast-caping and Boosting after receiving warnings ,then they will have no one to blame but themself if they get banned .