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afty
5th June 2005, 22:01
To MFJ, Daemord, Dan, Kil88, Muskle, Doccykins, and Baz... an awesome TWO HOURS FIVE MINUTES of all pick DOTA loving... FEAR TEH MIENZ!

Killy
5th June 2005, 22:08
yep gg to all
we need more like that ;)

C4Ninja_Pig
5th June 2005, 22:33
WHAT! DOTA! WHERE!

Baz
5th June 2005, 23:28
someone post the replay up somewhere!

and yes, absolutly awesome game.

pleased i went ursa and not someone i knew already too.

MrMuskle
6th June 2005, 00:17
Thanks, was a fantastic game :P

Replay is now uploaded...

http://jimlaflin.f2s.com/dota/IveWastedMyLife.w3g

:D

Baz
6th June 2005, 02:13
just realised, fury swipes is an orb effect, so satanic didnt stack with it....

should've gone for butterfly instead:rolleyes:

afty
6th June 2005, 08:17
Indeed, if you wanted to increase your hit points, Tarrasque would have been a more efficient option....

Dan
6th June 2005, 08:34
Quality game, bastard techies though, we must have bought over 10 Gems, only to lose them soon after :p

DaeMord
6th June 2005, 14:41
/me whistles, cant think why u lost them dum de dum

and Baz i kept saying heart heart heart did nobody listen to me, oh where oh where is my damn new headset.

Lesson to be learnt, never let DaeMord near Venomancer.

Baz
6th June 2005, 14:59
i didnt see the calls for me to get hearts, and boosters were cheap.

afty
6th June 2005, 15:29
Heart or Satanic is indeed better on strength heroes than Soul Booster, but a bit more expensive....

her0n
6th June 2005, 15:43
If you want hax i suggest you play an -ap 5.84c game and let me go SA :D

Joey[kins]
6th June 2005, 16:23
I'm fairly sure Ursa Warrior is an agility hero, hence the rather silly attack rates and not totally silly HP

afty
6th June 2005, 17:39
THat, Joey is a good point. I should have said "non caster" but with the Ursas Orb Effect, I imagine it's a toss up on his part.

RoboStac
6th June 2005, 18:17
His ultimate also does more damage based on his hitpoints, to add extra confusion to the 'just what is this hero' debate. From what I've seen, stacking hp with a small attack speed increase is best

Baz
6th June 2005, 19:19
he's a ranged agility hero, with melee range (something to do with fury swipes not working properly on melee). Fury swipes dont stack with anything (even skadi, which isnt an orb effect on ranged heros)

His ulti deals 4%,6%,8% of his total HP.

So a fully Buffed Ulfsaar (as i had in that game deals (with ulti turned on)

1st hit: Base damage + 320 (8% of 4khp)+24 fury swipes
2nd hit: Base Damage +320+48 fury swipes
3rd hit: Base damage + 320+72 fury swipes
4th hit Base damage +320+96 fury swipes
5th hit Base damage +320+ 120 fury swipes

so taking his Base as 96, his overpower attack at high levels deals 2440 damage in about 2 seconds, hence my ability late game to take heros from full to dead in such a time.

I also compared Heart and Booster with Ulfsaar today

Soul Booster = +450hp,+400mana
$3300

Heart = +935Hp (str and hp increase added), +11hp regen
$5600

Twice as effective , for less then twice the price. I think a better build for Ulfsaar would be Treads>heart>booster>butterfly>heart

thus giving extra mana, HP, and attack dmg and speed.

afty
6th June 2005, 19:31
Remember, building items from smaller components is your aim if the game is not going well for you, so using boosters is good if you're losing, Hearts if you're winning...

Baz
6th June 2005, 20:31
indeed
taking into the fact that i died quite a few times at the start of the game, i think i went for the right build in the end, except for the satanic obv.

Zeuseh
6th June 2005, 20:49
how do i play a w3g?

MrMuskle
6th June 2005, 21:37
Double click on it, it opens automatically

If you haven't got WCIII... dunno

Baz
6th June 2005, 22:00
extract it to your replays folder in c:/programfiles/warcraftIII

then go to single player in TFT and click on "view replay"