ADSL and networks

[Pigeon]

I have 6ish PCs and when I get ADSL insalled I would like to access the net from all machines using a network through one machine as a router.
I need to know if this breaks BT's one user part of he agreement.

This product provides an ADSL connection to one
computer which runs up to 500kbps downstream and 250kbps upstream with
contention at 50:1, and access to the BTopenworld consumer portal with a
link to the business portal. The Home 500 product does NOT use Network
Address translation (NAT). You will be able to choose or retain a BT
Internet email address as part of this product. You will be charged #39.99
(including vat) monthly in advance via a Visa or MasterCard credit card
(there is a #150 inc vat installation fee).

IMPORTANT: For Home 500, your computer must be at least a
Pentium 200Mhz with a spare USB socket, and either Windows
98, Windows 98SE or Windows 2000 operating systems. Your operating
system CD will be required during installation. At the time of writing,
this product will not work with Windows 95, Windows ME,
Apple Macs or 'dual processor' motherboards

can anyone confirm if this is legit or not to do.
Also my intended router is likely to be a P133, below the min spc I know but it should work right? (It has a loverly 20Gig drive that means it can keep up with my Dads 700MHz Laptop)
Alos any advice on setting up the router would be appreciated. Planning on using Windows ICS or WinGate with a suitable firewall.
The maybe some suggestions about setting up web/ftp servers.
Thanks.

[Wizzo]

Lots of people do it... regardless of the agreement. Cable modems have a similar arrangement but I know lots of people who have entire flat networks behind a NAT router on their CM :)

[Pigeon]

thats okay then. how do they hide it when BT turn up and you have a good few machines lying about.

Spose single user means 1 person so 1 at a time rather than many people using it at same time ?

most 56k pay services are for single user only yet I've seen a few places encouraging people to Connection share .


[Edited by Pigeon on 23rd February 2001 at 23:43]

[Phiebs]

OK
You have about 3 options here...
1) Get a decent router (about £200+)
2) Get sygate/wingate running on a server
3) Get sygate/wingate running on a normal comp

I have tried all three methods, and would suggest using Sygate from http://www.sybergen.com on a normal comp FIRST. The fastest is from behind a router..but these are expensive. I know it can be done - cause I've done it. My company havn't ever asked me if I was sharing my connection or anything cause as far as they are concerned you just use the internet a lot. (It is difficult for them to look behind your first hop).
If you have a spare comp (only needs to be about P2 300 or perhaps less) then go for option 2. The server. It works quite well, just there is one more comp to crash in the network. THat is the only reason I like routers. Just have 2 network cards in the server computer (in option 2/3) and connect one to your LAN and the other to the DSL modem. The only trouble you dcan encounter here is if the routing software has DNS enabled on the same ring as the DSL line. You need to have a little bit of experience with that. Any more questions I'll be happy to answer.

[Wizzo]

Winroute is another good NAT proxy too... with some nifty firewall capabilities.

[Groodles]

I can't see there being a problem with sharing the DSL connection between a LAN on the customer side. Afterall, it's not like you'll be able to use more bandwidth than they allocate you. ;)

[Cabe]

in case anyone is wondering, the "Dual-Processor" bit is because they dont wanna say it wont work with NT (its that or 2k) for dual-proccy systems, as NT has shall we say "pitiful" usb support, incase no one has mentioned this to you, the "server" needs a usb port :)