Taxes and Where They Go....

[Afty]

I'd love to get a clean visual illustration of where OUR taxes in the UK go, similar to this one for America:

http://www.deviantart.com/view/9410862/

Which is simply superb... shows you just how much is spent on "defence" when compared with social programs, or services *for* taxpayers.

[10G0]

good call afty, quite shocking

[Noodleman]

I would love to know this as well.

It seems as if it just disappears within our goverment :rolleyes:

[KingDaveRa]

That is quite nice. I'm sure somebody could find the stats for a UK one.

Especially now FOI is law actually.

[Neon]

Woah, thats pretty impressive research

[Zenith]

The Dept of Energy spends 17.269 billion on nuclear weapons functions alone.
NASA gets 15.469 billion total!

I mean W T F ?

[Er00]

that's very nice. Wonder how long it took to find out all that stuff.

[Optimus]

as for this country, didn't Tony Blair move into a mansion estate in his home constituency thats worth nearly a million pounds when he came into power or something?

[Blind]

http://www.mod.uk/aboutus/keyfacts/factfiles/expenditure.htm

Best I could find for UK

[Silk75]

Not intending to defend the gross over spending on defence in the US, but most of their local (ie statewide) spending is done via controlling sales tax on whatever you buy. In this country VAT goes to the government not to local authorities.
I know we have council tax, but thats a drop in the ocean compared to VAT/Sales tax.

[RocketKnight]

If you want to know where it all goes you should be looking at the world of documentation on the Treasury website.

http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/budget/budget_04/


Where taxes come from:
(Total receipts - £455 billion )

http://budget2004.treasury.gov.uk/graphics/tax_comes_from_pie.gif


Where taxpayers' money is spent
(Total managed expenditure - £488 billion)

http://budget2004.treasury.gov.uk/graphics/tax_spent_pie.gif



If you want a further break down it's going to involve lots more reading. All the government departments have their own websites where you can download reports explaining what they do with their share.

[RocketKnight]

Oh, also, the National Statistics website put out the 2005 year book of important figures, you can get a lot of info from there about where the money goes and which departments are responsible for what.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/downloads/theme_compendia/UK2005/UK2005.pdf

[KingDaveRa]

It pleases me that we spend twice as much on Education as the Military.

Just shows how the USA is a gun-toting nation I suppose.

</mini rant>

[Optimus]

im more surprised how it says 'apparantly' more than 3 times gets spent on Healthcare than the Military...

that second chart is the biggest pile of shash ever...

[D0c]

It depends on how 'defence' and 'social protection' is defined.

[Nivek]

are the figures yearly or what?

[TE-Hellfire]

Originally posted by Optimus
im more surprised how it says 'apparantly' more than 3 times gets spent on Healthcare than the Military...

that second chart is the biggest pile of shash ever...

That's a mistake in the common usage of the word "apparent".

Somewhere along the line, people began using the word "apparently" in place of "allegedly", they more or less mean the opposite thing, so the Government are stating that the spending is clear for all to see rather than a rumour of some kind, whereas most people would mistakenly interpret that to be the other way round.

[Optimus]

what ARE you going on about?

[Steadders]

Originally posted by KingDaveRa
It pleases me that we spend twice as much on Education as the Military.

Just shows how the USA is a gun-toting nation I suppose.

</mini rant>

plus, i think america have more things to defend agasint. If we got in trouble, america would be defending us with all that money.

And btw, whats the point in making all that research into a JPEG for crying out loud. Wouldn't a website make much more sence? Or at least a PDF.

[Optimus]

can you post websites or pdfs into DeviantART?

anyway it shows off his PS skillz...

[Afty]

Originally posted by Steadders
If we got in trouble, america would be defending us with all that money. Yeah that's right. I mean, when the IRA were engaged in bombing the UK mainland (OH NOES! TERRORISTS!) their biggest fund raising grounds were Boston, New York etc.

So, which country is harbouring terrorists now? Who do we have a right to "act pre-emptively") against?

[Silk75]

Originally posted by Steadders
plus, i think america have more things to defend agasint. If we got in trouble, america would be defending us with all that money.

And btw, whats the point in making all that research into a JPEG for crying out loud. Wouldn't a website make much more sence? Or at least a PDF.

Ever tried to read the governments stats pdfs?

I have, I rapidly lost consciousness due to lack of oxygen to the brain.

[TheDon]

Originally posted by Steadders
And btw, whats the point in making all that research into a JPEG for crying out loud. Wouldn't a website make much more sence? Or at least a PDF. Because you can just look at it and see straight off where things are going, it provides an easy to understand breakdown of everything. You want a pdf of tables? google, there are loads of them, and you will get bored before you extract nearly as much information as you do from a quick look at that picture.

The human brain absorbs things alot easier when they are presented in a clear, easy to understand pretty diagram like that is.

Also when looking at this you do have to remember that America is vastly different in terms of health care, they don't have an NHS, it's pretty much all private medical insurance, and each state has alot of control over most spending, congress doesn't have all that much to do in terms of controling spending.

[Nivek]

Originally posted by afty
Yeah that's right. I mean, when the IRA were engaged in bombing the UK mainland (OH NOES! TERRORISTS!) their biggest fund raising grounds were Boston, New York etc.

So, which country is harbouring terrorists now? Who do we have a right to "act pre-emptively") against?

made me laugh, because its so true.

you have to smile at the irony. wheres "the war against terror begins at home" campaign

[Mastacheif]

Originally posted by afty
Yeah that's right. I mean, when the IRA were engaged in bombing the UK mainland (OH NOES! TERRORISTS!) their biggest fund raising grounds were Boston, New York etc.

So, which country is harbouring terrorists now? Who do we have a right to "act pre-emptively") against?

Now that i liked :)

We i my opinion spend far too much of social security and Healthcare now dont get me wrong i think these systems are great concept however atm they are so poorly implemented and are abused extensively they need to be re evaluated and re-organised. Something need to be done about all these leachs that have like 7 kids and dont work a hard day work ever in there life (a little extreme 7kids but the same for the 15-16yr olds that get pregnant fo the money an basically a cost free life for the next 16years etc), social security is a joke when i lost my job you know how much i got for the 4 weeks i was unemployed £12.54, yet i see Mercs BMW's all parked at the job centre across from my house signing on, there are ppl i have known who are earn twice as much as me a still getting £200 houseing benefit and income support (does anybody even both checking them i mean FFS).

I apologise for the rant and any single mothers/dads that i have upset but the local area i live in is full of these little girls (and they are just girls) pushing round prams full of future townies (chavs) in groups like they were at school while i have to go to work to pay my taxes to support the stupidity of haveing a child without being able to support it fully.

[Steadders]

Originally posted by TheDon
Because you can just look at it and see straight off where things are going, it provides an easy to understand breakdown of everything. You want a pdf of tables? google, there are loads of them, and you will get bored before you extract nearly as much information as you do from a quick look at that picture.

The human brain absorbs things alot easier when they are presented in a clear, easy to understand pretty diagram like that is.

Also when looking at this you do have to remember that America is vastly different in terms of health care, they don't have an NHS, it's pretty much all private medical insurance, and each state has alot of control over most spending, congress doesn't have all that much to do in terms of controling spending.

yes but who has there resoultion that high! Its silly! I think a website would be much better with each bubble one after another.

[Hitori]

That's what the ability to scroll is there for! :)