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Ryvita
8th December 2004, 19:32
Important crew! Pay attention...
There are changes being made to the E111 health treatment form because of new EU legislation. The E111 is the one you have to take with you for when you fall out the shower and break your arm on day one.
Link (http://www.dh.gov.uk/PolicyAndGuidance/HealthAdviceForTravellers/LatestHealthUpdates%20/fs/en?CONTENT_ID=4086783&chk=RCXH0G)
It looks like you have to get it stamped in a post office beforehand, so get it sorted before we go.
Also, take some photocopies of it so that if, having fallen out of the shower on day 1 and broken an arm, you get your cast caught in a passing ski-lift and dragged half way up the mountain on day 2. On day 3 you'll slip on the ice outside the chalet and get concussion. Day 4, catch a head cold; day 5 an embarassing STD and day 6, you don't want to know about day 6...
Oh, and don't forget your
travel insurance with full ski cover (http://quote.insureandgo.com/(fyamp04542rokvzdjs3jdaqn)/default.aspx?bId=118&RsId=1).
Ryv
andyf
8th December 2004, 21:39
Oh, so E111 isn't travel insurance? We need that as well as private insurance? Damnit. I hate your logs and sticks.
Optimus
8th December 2004, 21:41
this is hardly a change in policy... It's always been the case that the E111 only covers you for personal injury on behalf of the UK's NHS...
phil
8th December 2004, 21:46
Originally posted by andyf
Oh, so E111 isn't travel insurance? We need that as well as private insurance? Damnit. I hate your logs and sticks.
You need private travel insurance, I think Zak mentioned somewhere in this forum the life-debt you will have to carry if you end up being helicoptered off the mountain without proper winter sports cover. If you have private insurance there is not much benefit in also taking your E111 afaik, although the excess might make it worth it I guess.
I think you always had to get a completed E111 (stamped etc) to recieve free cover abroad - I don't think this is new in itself, maybe just the fine print has changed.
Cabe
8th December 2004, 22:11
E111 is medical insurance this covers the cost of things like doctors fees and such like.
Travel Insurance is for your baggage and if they close the ski resort because of freak yeti attack or something.
http://www.travelinsuranceworld.co.uk/e111-forms.html
enjoy.
phil
9th December 2004, 07:31
Travel insurance is not just for baggage - it's for medical costs as well. Your E111 will only cover the bare minimum medical:
"It is paramount to stress that travelling with an E111 form will not constitute a sufficient level of cover in event of an emergency, but rather merely allow you to emergency medical cover. An E111 will not cover any follow up medical treatment or repatriation, nor will it provide cover against non-emergency medical treatment"
A standard 40 quid yearly travel insurance including winter sports will cover you for £1m in medical costs.
Also this:
"Hospital
But that is not the end of your problems. In France the state will pick up only 75% of your medical bills for the first 31 days, holders of E111 forms will be similarly covered. You may also have to pay for wheel chairs, crutches and prostheses. Even a relatively minor accident such as a broken wrist (and I speak from experience) could involve several operations and two weeks in hospital. You could be looking at a bill of 30,000 Euros of which you might have to pay 8,000 out of your own pocket. Anything more serious could be very expensive, avalanche casualties often suffer from hypothermia, broken ribs, legs and hips, you could be looking at 6 months in hospital."
afty
9th December 2004, 09:29
Private Medical Insurance. GET IT. There are NO excuses. NONE.
E111 is... a backup if you like. Personally as I Have insurance, I won't be bothering, sounds like too much hassle.
Big Giant Head
9th December 2004, 09:49
That insure and go insurance is a damn good deal actually. One of the few policies that will ensure you for unguided off piste, unless you're in an area "designated unsafe by resort management" ie you've ducked under a sign labelled "avalanche danger"
Also in the small print in the full policy document it appears to exclude park stuff (although the wording is so convoluted its kinda hard to say) "Ski Acrobatics; Ski Stunting; Freestyle Skiing;". Just something to bear in mind.
her0n
9th December 2004, 10:06
HE LIVES!!! ^^^^^
wb BGH :)
afty
9th December 2004, 10:23
Yeah. If you're going to try silly big jumps... well just like taking your car to a race track, your standard insurance will NOT cover it ;)
It's worth the risk though. Especially to try a back flip :)
Zakalwe
9th December 2004, 14:00
back flip or back flop?
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