DoW Patch is out

[Anim]

http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=46393

lots of stuff fixed, and eldar got hit hard :/

nicely in time for i22 :D

[Lusc]

OMFG WINNNNNNNARRRRR


DOWNLOADING!!!


i wouldent say eldar are hit hard, they have just ahd there bugs fixed, not really any nerfing.

[Bonkers]

19 meg - and the gamespy servers are ****!

[SarGara]

Hahaha silly Eldar, time for revenge on the newly nerfed race :p:

[Bonkers]

u wish :) any good eldar player - wont affect them - i know i havent modified my BO or any of my major tactics! so bring it

[TimmyNoShoes]

Its changed my initial tactics as eldar, now im crap with them :(
So i moved on to orksees :P

[Wizzo]

Ack most of the online admins away last night, so only just got to putting this on the FTP:

ftp://ukftp.multiplay.co.uk/pub/games/rts/dawn_of_war/patches/win32/dow-110-int.exe
ftp://ukftp.multiplay.co.uk/pub/games/rts/dawn_of_war/patches/win32/DoW-110-English.zip

[Guigsy]

they should fix the annoying fireing through hillsides thing. thats just not right...

[TimmyNoShoes]

The line of sight thing isnt a bug afaik.
It was intentional.

[Guigsy]

yeah. but since when have you been able to shoot bullets through walls? rather spoils the game in my opinion

[Silk75]

Watch out

Here come da orks!!

[afty]

Originally posted by Guigsy
yeah. but since when have you been able to shoot bullets through walls? rather spoils the game in my opinion It's based on the table top game. If any part of the squad can see the enemy, the rest of the squad can fire.

Moaning about how "unrealistic" this is, is like moaning that people don't really have power armour, Chaos doesn't exist, and the Eldar are really cheese eating teddy bears instead of nomadic space people.

[Aardvark]

They've even stopped moaning about it on the Relic forums. Give it up already!

[Guigsy]

well i'm sorry. i'm not a huge fan of the game... or the gametime. i'm crap at them... i'm just playing through it slowly *whimpers and runs off crying*

[TimmyNoShoes]

Originally posted by Guigsy
well i'm sorry. i'm not a huge fan of the game... or the gametime. i'm crap at them... i'm just playing through it slowly *whimpers and runs off crying*

Im shiit at it, doesnt stop me loving the game.

However, BE WARNED! never EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER! go near the relic forums, bunch of whinging sods never shut up about the "exploits" "bugs" "waaaaa imbalances" "lamers" etc.

More than any man can handle.

[Flufball]

Oooh somthing that might poke me into playing again as orks.

[Bonkers]

I feel some community influence has rubbed off on the patch - i mean look at it

Eldar -

lots

lots

lots







more eldar "bug" fixes










even MORE fixes

Spacemarines
Orcs
Orcs
Chaos
Chaos

Blah Blah
ect

Get a grip! Jesus christ

[Njoroge]

Wow - that's some serious eldar nerfing :/

I think they went over the top tbh. Eldar had a few bugs but they weren't *that* good!

[Bambers]

Well for the eldar players who didn't use plasma nades and seer council pre patch then it hasn't really changed all that much.

rangers are still totally useless :D

warlocks in the guardian squads now cost a little more

farseer is better

entangle lasts shorter but its still enough to stop things long enough to be mostly killed

the other changes are also pretty minor

and as a definite plus, banshees seem to be far more effective, mostly due to the f2 bug fix it seems although I've noticed they also seem to drop morale slower and don't get scared at the first sign of a fight anymore.

[TimmyNoShoes]

Originally posted by Bambers
Well for the eldar players who didn't use plasma nades and seer council pre patch then it hasn't really changed all that much.

rangers are still totally useless :D

warlocks in the guardian squads now cost a little more

farseer is better

entangle lasts shorter but its still enough to stop things long enough to be mostly killed

the other changes are also pretty minor

and as a definite plus, banshees seem to be far more effective, mostly due to the f2 bug fix it seems although I've noticed they also seem to drop morale slower and don't get scared at the first sign of a fight anymore.

Slightly off.

Entangle is impossible to use to stop FC or CL rush now

guardians are completely useless now.

Rangers are even MORE pointless.

seers council arent worth their money anymore.

and more...

[Bonkers]

if you aint so much of a noob - you need none of those things to stop a CL or FC rush :)
rangers ARE good - they are extremely good at breaking morale - and i for one always have a squad mid/late game or if you get PSM rushed. They are good for scouting. Fine they do crap damage - but combined with other things - hey they are actually useful!
Guardians are the most useful eldar unit - you just have to know how to use them - mid/late game they are basically cannonfodder - but are ESSENTIAL in micro and keeping some of your other aspect troops alive - coupled with the warlock upgrades @ temple - they are definately NOT useless
I for one like eldar very much - and the patch has shut most of the whiners out who said eldar was too good. Hey now i can beat you without you whining hey? Since ive changed NONE of my tactics!!

[Aardvark]

No, they'll still moan about Brightlances/Warp Spiders/Prisms being overpowered. I still like the comedy Ranger nerf though :)

[TimmyNoShoes]

Originally posted by Bonkers
if you aint so much of a noob - you need none of those things to stop a CL or FC rush :)
rangers ARE good - they are extremely good at breaking morale - and i for one always have a squad mid/late game or if you get PSM rushed. They are good for scouting. Fine they do crap damage - but combined with other things - hey they are actually useful!
Guardians are the most useful eldar unit - you just have to know how to use them - mid/late game they are basically cannonfodder - but are ESSENTIAL in micro and keeping some of your other aspect troops alive - coupled with the warlock upgrades @ temple - they are definately NOT useless
I for one like eldar very much - and the patch has shut most of the whiners out who said eldar was too good. Hey now i can beat you without you whining hey? Since ive changed NONE of my tactics!!

I dont really have MP just *right* now, so im playing harder bots (the next levell down from insane) and they can rush extremely FAST.

[Bonkers]

Its not actually a nerf Vark - if you look into the stats - they are *slightly* more powerful and do *slightly* more morale damage - its all down the the ROF :)

But yes - Orks are now moaning about Warp Spiders - not many people are moaning about Brightlances - and prisms are still leet :) if you pump them out early game - they provide enuf of a distraction to men - and rape buildings / tanks

[Flufball]

I'm not whining about spiders, so long as they dont bring back their original Horrible killall version of spiders I can deal with them, stormboyz can tie them up long enough for my boyz to get to them.

[Bambers]

Personally I'd say the ranger change is a minor nerf. Overall the moral/s and damage/s is up a bit but they do less in a single burst now. Previously a volley from a full ranger squad would break most units out there, now you have to wait for the next volley. and while they do have some uses, they are very expensive for what they do and if the opposistion is paying any attention he'll just jump some raptors into the ranger squad.

[andyf]

Now now lads, try not to sound like the poor Generals GLA players who cried bloody murder when they couldn't make 5 second tunnel networks any more ;)

[PuReBall]

this patch really hasnt done anything

ork is still the weakest , especialy against eldar, they did nothing to stop eldar mass platforming with warp spiders :(


space marine scouts are lol vs eldar and some orks ;(