Dear Peter, Paul and Mary...

[Elbonio]

why oh why would puff sail in a ship with billowed sail if he was:

a) a dragon (hence could fly)
b) a magic one


regards


Me

[TimmyNoShoes]

He was severly stoned at the time? and therefore excused.

[Er00]

maybe he'd had an accident and broken his wing :(

[Thrud]

He was severly stoned at the time? and therefore excused.

Puff The Magic Dragon is about drugs after all isn't it :)

[Valane]

Well we can all run but who here runs all the time, everywhere?

Puff the 'Cant be ****ed' Magic Dragon - Excellcent role model for your children.

[Chicane]

the dragon was shagging a donkey @ the time

[SilentMike]

well suposedly it wasnt about drugs.
I read it was somthing to do with the song writers child life?
I aint got a clue :(

[Freelance]

can someone PLEASE take Elbonio off the moderators list, so i can ignore him.

thanks in advance

[JeRkY]

seconded

[KingDaveRa]

Originally posted by TimmyNoShoes
He was severly stoned at the time? and therefore excused.

Who, Mr Dragon, or Elbonio?

[TimmyNoShoes]

Both i would guess.
I wouldnt be suprised if they were in cahoots with each other o.O

[Elbonio]

it is NOT a song about drugs


http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/puff.htm


it is about lost childhood

[TimmyNoShoes]

A lost childhood due to drugs right?

[Er00]

XD I have to say, it's easier to understand how it could be about drugs than about lost childhood, but I'll just have to believe you and snopes I guess!

[Elbonio]

Originally posted by Freelance
can someone PLEASE take Elbonio off the moderators list, so i can ignore him.

thanks in advance

surely you could have the same effect by not clicking that little hyperlink that opens up the thread whenever i've made one?

In other words it is quite obvious i posted the thread, therefore you have no need to open it, make a comment and bitch

you are

a) in the rants/raves forum - a forum whose contents quite clearly offend you in some way yet you STILL browse it.

This says to me that either you like reading nonsense but get a kick out of pretending you dont, or you are somewhat bitter with life and enjoy making yourself suffer by reading it.

If you don't like other nonsense and spam, dont browse rants/raves.

Dumbass.


and why not try this method....

b) dont read any threads which I start. You know you're going to be deeply offended whenever i post so why read them?


Simple eh?



And anyway ignoring me would still shoiw my threads, but you'd just see everyone else replies... with my posts saying "ignored". So its a bit of a useless feature really.

[TimmyNoShoes]

Originally posted by Er00
XD I have to say, it's easier to understand how it could be about drugs than about lost childhood, but I'll just have to believe you and snopes I guess!

The only reason i could beleive it was written about a lost childhood is if the writer was stoned at the time.
Nobody thinks on that level unless they are, how else can you tie in puff the magic dragon sailing away to a lost childhood.

[Er00]

by saying that you made me understand how it can, Thanks :p

I think the dragon represents childhood and he's sailing away

[TimmyNoShoes]

But why use a dragon to symbolise a child? wheres the significance?

[Er00]

becuase children use their imagination more than adults and dragons etc tend to be considered as fictional (they're real dammit *cough*)

[Elbonio]

i think you're looking too hard

the lost childhood is represented by the whole song - the story told by the words of puff having this great friend in Jacky


Puff, the magic dragon, lived by the sea
And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honalee.
Little Jackie Paper loved that rascal Puff
And brought him strings and sealing wax and other fancy stuff, oh

Puff, the magic dragon, lived by the sea
And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honalee.
Puff, the magic dragon, lived by the sea
And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honalee.

Together they would travel on boat with billowed sail
Jackie kept a lookout perched on Puff's gigantic tail
Noble kings and princes would bow whene'er they came
Pirate ships would lower their flags when Puff roared out his name, oh

A dragon lives forever, but not so little boys
Painted wings and giants's rings make way for other toys.
One grey night it happened, Jackie Paper came no more
And Puff that mighty dragon, he ceased his fearless roar.

His head was bent in sorrow, green scales fell like rain
Puff no longer went to play along the cherry lane.
Without his lifelong friend, Puff could not be brave
So, Puff that mighty dragon sadly slipped into his cave, oh




if anything it's jackie paper that represents the childhood - or the child inside of us.

however i think the story as a whole is supposed to be a reflection of the writers own lost innocence

[Er00]

fair enough, tbh the only lyrics I could remember were "puff the magic dragon, lived by the sea" and something about sealing wax XD

[TimmyNoShoes]

Oh come on man, after reading this again it HAS TO BE about weed.

Originally posted by Elbonio

And frolicked in the *autumn mist* in a land called Honalee.
Little Jackie *Paper* loved that rascal Puff
And brought him strings and *sealing wax* and other fancy stuff, oh

Together they would travel on boat with *billowed* sail
Jackie kept a lookout perched on *Puff's gigantic tail*
Noble kings and princes would bow whene'er they came

Painted wings and giants's rings make way for other toys.
One grey night it happened, *Jackie Paper came no more*
And Puff that mighty dragon, he ceased his fearless roar.

*His head was bent in sorrow, green scales fell like rain *
Puff no longer went to play along the cherry lane.
Without his lifelong friend, Puff could not be brave
So, Puff that mighty dragon sadly slipped into his cave, oh

[Er00]

you didn;t read that snopes article did you?

[TimmyNoShoes]

Dont beleive everything you read, the drugs arguement is much stronger than the childhood one, and yes i did read it.

Give in to the dark side! [/darth vader]

[Er00]

I don't believe everything I read, it was just the fact that everything you pointed out was in the snopes article :p

[Elbonio]

Mary had a little lamb,
Its fleece was white as snow

White as snow - cocaine


And everywhere that Mary went,
The lamb was sure to go

Refers to the act of concealing the drug and keeping it close to oneself


It followed her to school one day
Which was against the rules.


comment on the anti-drug regime


It made the children laugh and play,
To see a lamb at school


The effects of the drug


And so the teacher turned it out,
But still it lingered near


teacher is the authorities, making anti-drug laws more and mroe strict


And waited patiently about,
Till Mary did appear


The underground dealing still continues

"Why does the lamb love Mary so?"
The eager children cry
"Why, Mary loves the lamb, you know."
The teacher did reply



comment on the addictive properties of cocaine, the drug loves her, she loves the drug.


;)

[TimmyNoShoes]

Clearly theyre all subliminal messages, have we all been fooled even in our childhoods?
Im scared now :(

[KingDaveRa]

No Liminal messages though?

I love the fact that all children's songs are supposedly referring to drugs, and all childrens cartoons are usually gay or sexual in some way.

Is it any wonder we're all like we are?!

[Er00]

I just love teh way pretty much every nursery rhyme's bout disease or whatever! Like Ring a Ring O'roses

[Evil Elbonio]

Originally posted by KingDaveRa
No Liminal messages though?

I love the fact that all children's songs are supposedly referring to drugs, and all childrens cartoons are usually gay or sexual in some way.

Is it any wonder we're all like we are?!

yea, it was our grandparents genertion that made up all these silly songs.

[LadyU]

I have had this debate toooo many times...

[Strych]

I would like to know what the hell sealing wax has to do with smoking joints according to Timmy.

[Skoffin]

Originally posted by Elbonio

"Why does the lamb love Mary so?"
The eager children cry
"Why, Mary loves the lamb, you know."
The teacher did reply



comment on the addictive properties of cocaine, the drug loves her, she loves the drug.


;)

Come on now, everyone knows that Mary (or Mary Jane) is slang for Marijuana. The rhyme is clearly about how soft drugs lead to hard drugs ;)

[TimmyNoShoes]

Originally posted by Strych
I would like to know what the hell sealing wax has to do with smoking joints according to Timmy.

What would you call that waxy like product that seals cigarette papers together then ;)

[Strych]

Erm, as far as I'm aware, cigarette papers have a pre-gummed strip to seal them. Nothing even vaguely "waxy" is involved.

I think you may be inadvertantly smoking candles.

[TimmyNoShoes]

Har Har Har, i dont know exactly what its made of but it DOES seem waxy when you lick it.

[Er00]

not really, more like envelope sealing stuff than wax...