Broadband provider

[Baz]

Oh hi

im trying to find a new broadband provider and really need some possible reccomendations.

needs to be

1mbps or above
uncapped service
runs through BT landline

cost isnt too important but <£40 would be nice :)

cheers for any response

[starquake]

Okay - I know noone here will use them - bit of a niche ISP.

I use AAISP - www.aaisp.net.uk - they do 1Mbit home for about £37/mo, and 512Kbit for 27.50

Note there is a cap, but ONLY during working hours.... AAISP is primarily a business ISP - and I use stacks of data 6pm-8am. On the 1Mbit service cap is 40Mbyte/hour - though its averaged over the month and they don't mind. They have a usenet group on uk.net.providers.aaisp where customers post.

Advantages are as many IP's as you need free of charge - so you can run with no nat. Great for lan parties and the like for friends, IPV6 available.

Amazing pings for online gaming, as the network seems to be basically unused out of business hours... 20-25ms is the norm on counter strike, peaking at around 35ms.

[wishy]

You could do a lot worse than eclipse. 1Mbit is a bit excessive at £38 a month, but 512k Flex is £24, and gives you the option to bump it up to 1mbit for 9p / hour. How often do you really need the 1mbit?
They have a no capping pholosophy. Up to 8 static IP's on request and justification with no additional charging. 1 month contract

[Chicane]

i'm migrating to www.xifos.net

1 meg uncapped unlimited is currently £25
1 month contract
and if your not happy they'll pay ur migration fee to leave.

[Afty]

Nildram. OTOH £35/mo with a cap but very VERY large cap.

[wishy]

Nildram was a serious contender, but i've gone off um since they got bought out by pipex.

[Afty]

Originally posted by wishy
Nildram was a serious contender, but i've gone off um since they got bought out by pipex. I was somewhat worried by that, but I haven't noticed any issues at all since the changeover...

[Guigsy]

Originally posted by wishy
You could do a lot worse than eclipse. 1Mbit is a bit excessive at £38 a month, but 512k Flex is £24, and gives you the option to bump it up to 1mbit for 9p / hour. How often do you really need the 1mbit?
They have a no capping pholosophy. Up to 8 static IP's on request and justification with no additional charging. 1 month contract

i'm with eclipse 512. recently thaught about upping to 1mb. havent got around to it yet because i stuffed up there account on the web page lol. and there tech support is excelent. i've never been more than 2 mins waiting on the phone. And i still ping better than most of my cod clan

[Lucifa]

BT Broadband 1mb (not the Yahoo one) is now £27-28/month, with 30gb a month cap though that isn't being put into place until feb 2005 with options for upgrading the cap.

Lucifa

[Nikumba]

plus.net

2mb 50:1 no cap £39.99 in VAT per month

Nikumba

[maxrealism]

why do I not hear anyone mention bulldog?

AllTime 1000
£ 30 - monthly fee
£50.00 - setup fee
Up to 1Mbps -down
Up to 256kbps -up

AllTime 2000
£ 40 -monthly free
£50.00 -setup fee
Up to 2Mbps - down
Up to 256kbps -up

http://www.bulldogbroadband.com/flash.asp

TBH I have the option of adsl or cable (currently with NTL - £25/month for 750Kbps - down)

[Mouse_On_Mars]

Plus.net any day of the week.

[CyberDrac]

Nildram or Eclipse

Both consistently in the top 5 for speed, at www.adslguide.org.uk , and Nildram host Jolt servers so could be good for gaming, reasonable price, and am considering moving over to them soon, I am researching at the moment and Nildram seem to be my likeliest bet at the moment, Eclipse a close second and upgrading my BT line third.

CD

[Elbonio]

Originally posted by Nikumba
plus.net

2mb 50:1 no cap £39.99 in VAT per month

Nikumba


whats the up speed?


im assuming 256?

[D0c]

Another notch for Plus.net here, excellent service, tells you if and when they go down for maintainence so you can plan in advance (though it's usually from 3-6am)

I love Bonkers for bringing me to them :)

[Zakalwe]

Mmmm, Bulldog.

Even better, if you live in London, they give you 4 meg downloads plus a phone line for £40 a month - which is why I've told BT to FO.

For £52 a month you get the same service but ALL local and national calls are free! (I just never use the phone)

[Mouse_On_Mars]

Originally posted by Elbonio
whats the up speed?

im assuming 256?
Yes, 256.

[GeeDee]

I've got the leetor homeworked 2mb package from PlusNET and they're the best ISP i've ever had dealings with. Can't rate em highly enough.

You get a WORLD of extra stuff with an account and the support is really really impressive.

:)

[wishy]

Bulldog currently have HHUUUGGGEEE ipstream capacity issues, and have been rather poor at sorting things out. Unless you can get LLU based products in london, in which case its kick ass (Although imho, them cherrypicking exchanges for LLU is worse than BT deciding what the enable and not)

Plusnet - good package, but too cap happy for my liking

[Boffykins]

PlusNET as well. Wishy, what you talking about? They don't cap at all?

[wishy]

Boff - Theres a basic 2gb package, then you pay for more, (Up to unlimited)

Given they were one of the first ISP's to kick off 0800 dialup heavy users, and they've already started implementing capping, I would rather steer clear myself.

[Mouse_On_Mars]

They give you the option of a download cap, and you pay less.

[Boffykins]

Yeah, so you pay for the unlimited, which is on a par pricewise with other providers. What's the problem?

[wishy]

Boff, agreed, at the moment they have unlimited caps, but i just don't trust after killing off 56k accounts. (If we look at recent history, the companys that killed 0800 dialup accounts have been the first to implement capping on their broadband. They're after profit, not looking after customers)

As i said, i'd prefer to go with eclipse who have a complete no cap policy, and offer a generally more flexable package.

[GeeDee]

Don't assume Wishy.

It's the whole point of having the option of paying less, with cap or paying more without a cap. :p:

[Er00]

tbh I've gone off bulldog...they may do a 4meg line...but they're not the most reliable...as in my work's web was down for bout 1/2 hour and slow for bout 3 days cos of probs with them, although that was only once, I have no idea if it happens often :p

[Jazza]

Been with Pipex for a couple of years, service has been great. Though just about finish my special price for being a tester of there 1mb service (28.99), and now looking for 2mb service. Bulldog are generally rated as one of the best. Though there recent network issues have upset alot of people.

Also if your planning on using newsgroups on Pipex, note they have just implemented a 10gb download cap a month, just on newsgroups. but for £2, you get an extra 5Gb.

[Blood Sport]

Originally posted by CyberDrac
Nildram or Eclipse

Both consistently in the top 5 for speed, at www.adslguide.org.uk , and Nildram host Jolt servers so could be good for gaming, reasonable price, and am considering moving over to them soon, I am researching at the moment and Nildram seem to be my likeliest bet at the moment, Eclipse a close second and upgrading my BT line third.

CD

Nildram thats who i'm with so far so good, tho i have had a few drop connection but that i think was my router over heating

download speed is top tho with them. i have the 512 service and i'm downloading at 61 from a good server

[KingDaveRa]

I've been on Zen for the last couple of days, and so far its been sweet.

[Bonkers]

Plusnet
Plusnet
Plusnet
Plusnet

Did I Mention Plusnet ;)

[Shazz]

Originally posted by wishy
Nildram was a serious contender, but i've gone off um since they got bought out by pipex.

Had no issues What so ever with my nildram since Pipex bought them out, shockingly enough my connex has become better and more stable since pipex did buy them out :/

[wishy]

Originally posted by Boffbowsh
PlusNET as well. Wishy, what you talking about? They don't cap at all?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11/16/plusnet_broadband_hogs/

I feel an "I told you so" comming on...

[ShadowMan]

well i havnt recieved my email yet and i've managed to use up 55Gb in a little over 5 days. I average around the 45Gb mark a month for 7 months and still nothing.

They are only moving 0.3% of users who are using about 10% of their total bandwidth. Seems fair enough to me. I use a 2Mb HomeWorker package without a limit. £66 a month. Fantastic isp.

btw. I think this thread was dead but now it lives. Frankenstein tread. :)

[wishy]

This is how it always starts my friend...

[Chicane]

Originally posted by ShadowMan
well i havnt recieved my email yet and i've managed to use up 55Gb in a little over 5 days. I average around the 45Gb mark a month for 7 months and still nothing.

They are only moving 0.3% of users who are using about 10% of their total bandwidth. Seems fair enough to me. I use a 2Mb HomeWorker package without a limit. £66 a month. Fantastic isp.

btw. I think this thread was dead but now it lives. Frankenstein tread. :)

actually i thought that meant 0.3% of their users used 10% of their total bandwidth...

which u have ask what are you guys downloading?

also check this out:
http://www.adslguide.org.uk/newsarchive.asp?item=1962

^^ omg :)

also i dont think u guys considered my isp though :P

£25 uncapped 1 meg, its got to be worth a serious look.

www.xifos.net

[Jazza]

There is always UK Online's just announced 8Mb ADSL for £39.99 if you live in one of the area's they will unloop

http://www.ukonline.net/8000/

[wishy]

I live in the wrong part of brum for that. Should have gone closer to the ruddy uni, that exchange is covered. Oh well :rolleyes:

[Er00]

yay for 56k :rolleyes:

[Chicane]

56 what :o

[Er00]

exactly :p:

only 109 days to go (if I can count right...can't remember whether it was day before yesterday or day before taht which was 111 :p: )

[Bowser]

This is who I've gone to since Pipex were such arse's about me moving house.

http://www.griffin.net.uk

I'm only on the 512k but you get a static IP and unlimited downloads for £22 inc. VAT 1mb is £11 more a month.

[GeeDee]

I push more than a fair amount of traffic via my 2mb PlusNET homeworker account and i've not been contacted. I think it's only fair that people who run their connections at 100% 24 hours a day are shunted off. With an ADSL account, you do not pay for a 1:1 connection. Bandwidth costs the ISP money - therefore they have to contend it. I commend them for making the decision to sort it out before it becomes a problem for other users -- as the service they provide is very very good indeed. You can't expect an ISP to soak up the cost of that kind of usage. I imagine that 0.3% are people who leave P2P apps running 24/7 maxing out their connections. If you want to do that, buy a private circuit and pay for it.

:)

[wishy]

I'm not an excessively heavy broadband user, however to me, chucking people off because they use it too much is against the whole ethos of broadband, unlimited always on connections.
Its also the start of a very slippery sloap

[Cabe]

not since the whole BT "unlimited 0800 access" has anyone put unlimited in an advert.

you dont buy into a mobile phone contract and expect infinite free minutes talk time why should your internet be any different?

[GeeDee]

I bet you'd complain if your ISP hiked the price of your connection by £30 a month though Wishy. How do you expect an ISP to support that kind of usage? Bandwidth in the UK is certainly not cheap, especially international transit -- and if 0.3% of a userbase is using 10% of resources, I don't understand why you complain when an ISP takes action to retain a good quality of service for 99.7% of it's users.

And besides, PlusNET hasn't even terminated anyones contract, they've just pushed all the heavy users together onto their own platform. If the heavy users curtail their usage, they won't even see any change in service.

[Nivek]

i use the blueyounder 3mb (between 3 im the flat) the other 2 dont really use it.

i am not a heavy user, but when i want something i want it NOW, even if it is a linux iso at 650mb!

anyway if you can cable is cheap for the bandwidth you get, i am on 512 nildram at home, which i have had no problems with