bluesnarfing - why?

[andyf]

Bluesnarfing, the act of being able to pull data off a bluetooth enabled device (phone being the most common) without having to pair the devices.

Nokia have 4 models affected by this. BBC News "Click Online" program demonstrated a Sony Ericsson having a picture pulled from it and displayed on a laptop nearby.

Why? WHY?

Can Nokia's engineers not program properly? Are they incompetent? What's the problem? Follow the damn specification and program properly. There should be NO REASON WHATSOEVER when someone can PULL data from a bluetooth device without being paired. Jesus ****ing slack bastard tossers.

I ****ing hate consumer electronics these days. They are all ****ing compromised pieces of ****, made to make the manufacturer the maximum possible dollar for the least possible effort. ****ing capitalism at its worst.

[Freelance]

Originally posted by andyf
Can Nokia's engineers not program properly? Are they incompetent? .... Jesus ****ing slack bastard tossers.

I ****ing hate consumer electronics these days. They are all ****ing compromised pieces of ****, made to make the manufacturer the maximum possible dollar for the least possible effort. ****ing capitalism at its worst. they wouldn't be the first

[RocketKnight]

I have a Sony Ericsson T630. FFS. When I go and get it patched in a service centre, I'll be taking it out on the unlucky sales assistant that serves me. I'll also think twice about bluejacking in computing lectures, I'd think if anyone would try bluesnarfing it would be a uni computing geek in a lecture theatre of 300+ students.

[Optimus]

its simple... dont enable bluetooth unless you have too...

I got so pissed off with peons bluejacking my T610 and computer at both DreamLAN February and i19 when I was transfering pictures from phone to computer that I just stopped it... I doubt Bluesnarfing can happen to you if Bluetooth is disabled...

I mean, what the hell is the whole 'bluejacking' thing about anyway? Why the **** do I want one of these retards business cards anyway?

Murray Mint, im looking at you :)

[Baz]

you dont need bl00t00th turned on all the time...ever

its as simple as that. Even when using a bluetooth headset, BT shouldnt need to enabled (the handset should activate it as and when its needed) also hiding the handsets identity should stop anything accessing it (although im not sure if bluetooth hacking can bypass even that) to be honest, what sad loser is going to make a special effort to just take numbers or pictures off someones phone - "hurrah! i now have that guy over theres grandads mobile number!"

seriously, dont fall foul of the scare mongering - and blame the damned manufactures - not the poor ass person who sold you it (Baz got ranted at by a guy about this today who DIDNT EVEN HAVE BLUETOOTH!)

[Afty]

My mobile phone has a black and white screen, no infra red, no bluetooth, no mobile data, WAP is disabled, it's very small and lightweight, the battery lasts forever.

When it comes time for a new handset because this one dies, I'm going to try for the same model again. It's painless, convenient and does exactly what it says on the tin.

[Freelance]

a phone that just functions as a phone? common sense really. shame that flashing lights, cameras and bluetooth sells phones, especially to the pe0ns in work.

[Jez_Gafys]

I use bluetooth for my laptops modem and my cars handsfree kit. It's a great connection method if used correctly

[Steadders]

Originally posted by afty
My mobile phone has a black and white screen, no infra red, no bluetooth, no mobile data, WAP is disabled, it's very small and lightweight, the battery lasts forever.

When it comes time for a new handset because this one dies, I'm going to try for the same model again. It's painless, convenient and does exactly what it says on the tin.

but thats just boring.

for example, the other day me and my mates are down the BMX track, when we decided to make a fire over one of the ramps!! but Oh No!! i forgot my digital camara, "har har" i say, "ph33r not! i have a camara on my mobile telephone!"

you see, its practical.

[Afty]

I've never seen anyone show a picture taken on a mobile phone camera on any other medium than a mobile phone.

The cameras are crap, the quality of pic/colour balance is crap, they motion blur badly. I'd rather have my memory of the event intact than taint with a grainy washed out false colour representation of what happened for a split second. I don't know anyone who views the camera on their phone as anything more than a novelty for upskirt or down top pictures.

[Jez_Gafys]

Originally posted by afty
I've never seen anyone show a picture taken on a mobile phone camera on any other medium than a mobile phone.

The cameras are crap, the quality of pic/colour balance is crap, they motion blur badly. .

I very much beg to differ this is not always the case. The camera on my XDAII is outstanding there is no motion blur and it takes very good high color high res pictures. But yes there are some camera phones where the subject as to sit perfectly still for like 10 mins while you take the picture

[Steadders]

Originally posted by Steadders
but thats just boring.

for example, the other day me and my mates are down the BMX track, when we decided to make a fire over one of the ramps!! but Oh No!! i forgot my digital camara, "har har" i say, "ph33r not! i have a camara on my mobile telephone!"

you see, its practical.

true story, ill show you the pictures as soon as i find the software for my PDA, so i can send the pictures via infra red from my phone to my PDA, then upload the pictutre from my PDA to the computer where i can then upload them to a website...

this may be partly why you never see pictures on anything other than the phone itself.

[D0c]

camera phone served very well for me at 3km up in Austria

http://www.doccykins.plus.com/ski.jpg

transfer via IRDA through a USB-IR receiver to PC (£5 from ebuyer)