Sticks and their origins.

[Elbonio]

Sticks are always made of wood.

you can get sticks OF other things such as a stick of rock, stick of dynamite, stick of gum...


but they're not sticks.


Sticks have to be made of wood.

ok. You can get man made sticks - which are still made of wood but have been fashioned into a stick like shape by the hand of man. They are good, but are inferior to natural sticks.


Trees are the source of all sticks.


Trees exist only to die and produce sticks. They are stick factories.


Sticks can come in many forms and varities but they are always pointy and made of wood.


Some are more pointy than others.

[DarkMatter]

oh dear GET OUT MORE PEOPLE!!!

[Squeeb]

Meat sticks are fun :)

Pepperarmi's... and such .. yea...
Not cock..

[Skye]

http://www.shopmaninc.com/Images/tongdepr.jpg

Sticks!!!

[Elbonio]

skye


those are manfactured sticks.


they are not natural sticks but they are sticks none the less



you must be wary of items that have all the properties of a stick but are really just stick replicas.


you have been warned.

[Elbonio]

Originally posted by squeeb
Meat sticks are fun :)

Pepperarmi's... and such .. yea...
Not cock..


they're not sticks

they're sticks OF meat



sticks are made of wood. see lesson one.

[Squeeb]

In that case..

Natural Drum Sticks... Grown on trees you know..

http://www.drumsplus.com/sticks.jpg

[Elbonio]

they are sticks but they are manufactured


all sticks are made of wood but only natural sticks come directly from trees, these are the quinessential sticks.


manufcaterd sticks are sticks that have been crafted by man and so have had their natural stick goodness removed.

[Skye]

STIIICCKKKSSSSShttp://www.tsl.state.tx.us/ld/projects/trc/2002/manual/images/bilingual/stick.jpg

[Elbonio]

http://glen-of-imaal-terrier.com/contest5/stick.jpg


dogs are experts in sticks


they dont settle for anything less than a good, natural stick.

[Squeeb]

Like this then? :
http://www-saps.plantsci.cam.ac.uk/trees/images/twig.gif

[Elbonio]

someone's been reading their twig textbook....




books are of course relations to sticks


as all wood-based objects are



they're the sticks that could have been... but instead they were denied their natural path of becoming a stick and turned into a coffee table by the hand of man...

[Guigsy]

http://www.totempoles.info/images/sticks-tn.jpg
http://www.newcastledrum.co.uk/stands/graphics/sticks.jpg
http://www.viperlair.com/images/reviews/mem_store/ocz/gold4000/sticks.jpg
http://www.uvm.edu/~uvmrotc/Pugil%20sticks.jpg

spot the odd ones out

[Squeeb]

:pissed: bastard humans

[Elbonio]

only two of those are sticks


the first is an excellent example of a stick congregation.

the second is another example of how man can manipulate sticks into their own version of a stick.

the third is a stick OF ram - not a stick but merely a descriptive term

and the fourth is objects designed to have the properties of a stick without actually being sticks. they're metal with foam around them but they are certainly not sticks.

[Guigsy]

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/david.dell/twiggy/twiggy1.jpg (thats "twiggy" by the way)

[Elbonio]

again


a man made object designed to have all the properties of a twig without ever been sprouted from a tree

twiggy is a stick replica that scores poorly in all catagories of stick rating

[JeRkY]

BE warned though stick fans, there are currently men going around claiming to be working for better recognition of sticks, these "stickmen" are however frauds, they are infact nothing more than poorly fashioned lines of graphite on crappy scraps of paper (the poorest of poor relation to sticks)

Have you seen this man

http://www.engineering.usu.edu/ece/faculty/rjost/stickman.jpg

If so report the sighting to your local woodland or forestry commision office

[Elbonio]

if its a weekend or a bankholiday and your local wood is closed you can call the national wood hotline on 020 7839 1891

[TE-Hellfire]

I'd say that we are all in a very sticky situation.


:(

[Guigsy]

http://www.pennypages.net/camp/207%20remi%20log%20camp.jpg

http://www.pennypages.net/camp/207%20cam%20tyler%20camp.jpg

http://winscp.sourceforge.net/eng/screenshots/large/log.gif

http://www.cof.orst.edu/cof/clubs/saf/activity/10-25-03/Big%20Log.jpg

GOT LOG?

[Elbonio]

someone asked a very important question...


when does a stick become a log?


well this is a very fine line indeed and it could mean the difference between life and death in some concievable scenario's where choosing between sticks and logs is of vital importance...


there is no real way of knowing for sure - you just have to use your instincts.

that question should be the other way round - it should be when does a Log become a Stick? Logs are actually bundles of raw sticks compressed together which, when stood upright in the ground, make a tree.

So logs are still sticks at heart but are not ready to be sticks yet and should really be classed as a good source for man-made sticks as they need more preperation and development to reach stick potential...

[Guigsy]

i would class it roughly as follows...

twig < 1.5cm thick
stick > 1.5cm < 8cm thick
branch > 8cm < 20cm thick
log > 20cm thick

BUT

there are sub categories. a branch is only a branch when it has sticks and twigs still attached to it. a branch without attachments becomes a large stick or a small log depending on size.

[Elbonio]

perhaps i should explain the stick life cycle in a bit more detail



All sticks come from trees.

A tree is not a big stick. it is a stick refinery where raw stick is made into sticks that we can pick up or harvest from the tree and poke things with.

A log is a tree or section of a tree that is no longer producing sticks due to it being uprooted or removed from the tree in some form.


Logs are obviously bigger than sticks becuase they have the potential for many future sticks inside them


sadly however logs are sticks that will never see the light of day unless man comes along and manually turns the logs into sticks by manufacturing and forging them into man-made sticks.

Man-made sticks are always inferior to natural sticks but in this case they are preferable as if left to its own devices a log cannot produce sticks. (this was discovered in the great log to stick experiments of the 1960's. Many a man died whilst watching logs to see if they would evenutally produce sticks. Some say that the experiments are still going on to this day but are secret and underground to avoid any outside influences...)

[Guigsy]

i understand that a tree is to preduce sticks. but does said tree not produce branches and twigs? i feel there is more depth to this than just sticks

[Elbonio]

brances are sticks that are ready to be sticks but are still attached to the tree (ready for shipping from the factory if you will). a branch is just one step in the natural stick making process...


and twigs are another name for small sticks. They are still sticks but can often be parts of a larger stick that has been broken down. Or they may just simply be small sticks, some are made like that are sticks come in many forms.

[Guigsy]

ah so its a pseudo depth then... there more than just sticks... but just sticks with knobs on?

[Elbonio]

Originally posted by Guigsy
ah so its a pseudo depth then... there more than just sticks... but just sticks with knobs on?


not really no.

a branch is just a stick in development, albeit at the end of the prcoess.


a tree trunk is also a stick in development, just very early on.


a sapling or seed that will grow into a tree is a stick at its earliest stage.

trees exist only to make sticks and all stages of their cycle - all parts of the tree - are simply sticks in one stage of development or another....

[Guigsy]

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[LlamaMan]

wow...so enlightening...

I'll never look at a tree the same way again!

[Steadders]

sticks are good, but holes are better.

[Elbonio]

sticks are just long, pointy no-holes that you can poke people with...

[Steadders]

good point.

[Optimus]

was that pun intentional?

[Elbonio]

i doubt it

[zhardoum]

when is a stick not a stick, yet definately a stick?

When its a boomerang.

However a stick can be said to be stuck, without ever being wood, eg. stick it to them, .. or as in Stick up..

the act of a stick up is infact a stuck up, but if that were the case, then a tree would be a true.

which could be confusing if you were steck up, by a villain using a boomurang, which was made of woed, which would be a sticky moment, or would that be stecky moment.

my head hurts..

[FeAr]

i chopped down a 'stick refinery' today, well most of it :D

[Elbonio]

Originally posted by zhardoum
when is a stick not a stick, yet definately a stick?

When its a boomerang.



True it's still a stick - but its a man made stick so is inferior and is not expected to have the qualities of a natural stick.

Originally posted by zhardoum


However a stick can be said to be stuck, without ever being wood, eg. stick it to them, .. or as in Stick up..

the act of a stick up is infact a stuck up, but if that were the case, then a tree would be a true.




a stick up, sticking it to them are merely phrases, they are not related to sticks and/or their uses.

Originally posted by zhardoum


which could be confusing if you were steck up, by a villain using a boomurang, which was made of woed, which would be a sticky moment, or would that be stecky moment.

my head hurts..


if this ever happens just pull out your 100% natural stick and watch them run for miles whilst you make poking motions in their general direction...

[Elbonio]

Originally posted by FeAr
i chopped down a 'stick refinery' today, well most of it :D


You have stopped appoximately 700,000 sticks from coming into the world. I hope you're happy.


you'd better turn those logs into sticks yourself becuase the tree certainly cant do it now....

[FeAr]

ill try my best, however i may just make the logs into charcoal

[RocketKnight]

http://www.pma.edmonton.ab.ca/natural/insects/_images/stick.jpg

What about stick insects? They're not man made, they're pointy, and if they stood very still you wouldn't know the difference.

http://familyfun.go.com/Resources/Features/Activities/famf107project_15_carrotquestion.gif

And carrot sticks. They're also naturally occuring, although there is some manufacturing involved. But you could say the same about chopping a tree trunk down to a stick.

[KingDaveRa]

Mmmmm. Sticky.

[Elbonio]

Originally posted by RocketKnight
http://www.pma.edmonton.ab.ca/natural/insects/_images/stick.jpg

What about stick insects? They're not man made, they're pointy, and if they stood very still you wouldn't know the difference.

http://familyfun.go.com/Resources/Features/Activities/famf107project_15_carrotquestion.gif

And carrot sticks. They're also naturally occuring, although there is some manufacturing involved. But you could say the same about chopping a tree trunk down to a stick.


Stick insects are just wannabe sticks. They are huge fans of sticks and devote their lives to them. They're a sticks best friend really...

but they're not sticks.


And just becuase carrot sticks are natural doesnt mean they're sticks - they're sticks OF carrot. Sticks have to be made of wood remember?


And no chopping a tree trunk down to sticks is not natural, hence that makes it a man-made stick which is a stick but an inferior one.

[Blind]

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=stick

Everything you wanted to know about a stick and its various forms.

[Elbonio]

the dictionary is falsified by those who wish to bring slander to sticks...

[Steadders]

are there good sticks and bad sticks?

like are sticks with torns evil? and are the fury ones the good ones

[Elbonio]

sticks are inanimate lengths of wood. They are neither good nor bad - they are what their owner is.


They do however have a right end and a wrong end.

[Steadders]

ok lets say a friend of mine has a stick.

he cuts both ends off of the stick, how am i surposed to know which end is the right end? and which is the wrong?

its the same thinkness all the way down.

[Freelance]

tree-hugging hippies

[Steadders]

not tree huggers...

stick huggers.....

[Elbonio]

stick refinery huggers

[Steadders]

any chance of answering my question mark?

[Elbonio]

Originally posted by Steadders
ok lets say a friend of mine has a stick.

he cuts both ends off of the stick, how am i surposed to know which end is the right end? and which is the wrong?

its the same thinkness all the way down.


Experience my friend, experience.


You will know when you get the wrong end of the stick, and you will learn from it.


It's like when you first put a metal object, such as tinfoil, into a microwave. You learn not to do it again after that. It's just like that....

[Steadders]

lets say me and said friend are arguing over the stick. both holding one end each, is one of us holding a more wrong end of the stick than the other?

[Elbonio]

to determine if one is has the wrong end of a particular stick, one must first ask "how many ends does a stick have?". Then you may use any means necessary to deduce if the end you are indeed clutching with your hot little hand is in fact, the wrong one.

[Steadders]

thanks

[KingDaveRa]

We all know where the saying 'wrong end of the stick' comes from.

We don't want that wrong end.

I don't anyway.

[Arachnamus]

Don't be so flippant, sticks don't grow on trees, ya know..

[Killy]

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/images/comics/_2__1__0_20031013.jpg
TREE!!!!!!!
And yes i'm aware this is blatent pimpage for Savage and i don't care :)

[Steadders]

comic reminds me of a less funny penny arcade :(