Official Statement regarding Tizon and MPUK

[Neophyte]

As most people are now well aware, we were forced to part company with one of our unreal public server admins last week. It's a move that is of no surprise to the community given his large role in the hacking of MPProtect (Multiplays anti cheat). His crime was to go way beyond his authority and "Commission" this hack. Only 4 people within the whole of MPUK have that authority, myself, Azazel, Wizzo and Killing, none of us would even dream of doing it, he also neglected to tell us of this even after it had been publically released.

Killing and myself both received tipoffs and thus launched our own internal investigations into how this was allowed to happen. We sat and waited for tizon to slip up and even enhanced the anti cheat using various means to try and catch him out, see if he was using this for his personal gain. We failed to detect anything which suggests that this was not the case. Once the proof and confirmation came through we immediatly removed any access he had with MPUK and asked him to leave. The guy who wrote the hack, Mudblud, was also a lan gooer, he has now been banned from all lans MPUK are associated with, my thanks go out to GeeDee and the rest of the organisers for this.

On a personal level, I dont believe Tizon cheated or intended to use it for his own personal gain, I believe he was stupid and got carried away with another anti cheat project he was working on. This however, is no excuse to go getting our servers hacked, no matter what the reasons, we wont tollerate it. This belief is further backed up by a top admin from another gsp who has publically posted she does not believe this either. Tizon was always helpfull to us with regard to detecting cheats, allways went out of his way to keep the servers as cheat free as possible, he was a hard working admin whos good deeds for MPUK vastly outnumbered his mistakes. It's with sadness I type this, as this mistake was just too costly at a period when we are becomming increasingly competitive with our main rivals.

Both myself and Azazel are about as anti-cheat as you can get, and we both try very hard to ensure the servers are kept clean. This however, has highted how vulnerable we are to attacks, and it is something I'm now looking at. I want to improve the service continually, which means ensuring this doesnt happen again.

For those who are wondering why this statement has taken so long to produce, its due to Azazel being on holiday, I didn't want to post this whilst he wasn't about. I have taken a lot of flack over this in the last week, a lot of it for stuff I have/had no control of. I realise this is sadly part of the role and that I have put myself in this position voluntarily, but I would kindly ask the community in future to let common sense overule angry feelings.

We do a hard but imo good job, and to be flamed for putting hours of work into providing servers for ut is not fair on anyone. We are human and from time to time will make mistakes, we aim not to but it happens. In hindsight Tizon was a mistake, but also he was a major part in making this the success its been so dont be too harsh on him. We wont be backing him on this and we have removed him from the team, surely this is a just punishment and I would ask he be left now to get on with playing.

[meep]

:'(

[oxy]

omg!

:(

[Azazel]

Amen :(

[BugAlugs]

just where has all the love gone !

[ChicXulub]

I've had dealings with these two idiots in the past and it doesn't surprise me one little bit that they were involved in something like this. All I can say is goodbye and bloody good riddance.

[BullDog]

I in no way endorse cheating or those that help cheating in any way, shape or form - I was very saddened to learn what Tizzy did but I will say he was great to work for as a league admin.
Like Neo said - he did a fantastic job in tryna keep the MPUK insta league on course.

I guess the darkside is too tempting.

gl tiz - was a pleasure working with you.

bd

[Limi]

Shame

[Morba]

:O

[TiZoN]

Well as I have entered on other forums what I was doing and reasoning I wont be repeating them all here not until I have spoke to az anyways :)

As for going over to cheating, hacking etc I dont think so ull sttill see me in IRC, on the Servers and playing wars

[HeRbaLisT]

Originally posted by TiZoN
Well as I have entered on other forums what I was doing and reasoning I wont be repeating them all here not until I have spoke to az anyways :)

As for going over to cheating, hacking etc I dont think so ull sttill see me in IRC, on the Servers and playing wars

idd ur like a fckin red wine stain on a white table cloth. When will someone vanish this n00bie cheatin ****s ass.

As for MPUK i have no bad feelings towards them, they do do a good job i guess and supply a nice service they just dont think about who they are apointing as admins. tbh id say it is pretty obvious that u dont apoint anyone with a cheat history as an admin but hey peopel make mistakes.

gl in the future CyBeRKiLLeR Un|Var TiZoN whatever the **** ur callin urself nowadays lam0r.

also u was doin it for a reason, like NuFFy said on jolt y do u help other people cheat then stupid cock lmfao

[Chicane]

theres nothing like shouting at someone, but failing to use the english language so the rest can understand u.

[Miez]

Originally posted by HeRbaLisT
idd ur like a fckin red wine stain on a white table cloth. When will someone vanish this n00bie cheatin ****s ass.

... tbh id say it is pretty obvious that u dont apoint anyone with a cheat history as an admin but hey peopel make mistakes.


Well first off the frist part of this post, imo isnt necessary, and im sure mpuk dont appoint admins with cheat historys.

Il probably get flamed for this part and im not totally aware of the circumstances but hell its a forum. You banned both Mudblud and TiZon straight away, from all mpuk associated lans, and channels. Now this to me, seems a little harsh. Ok i think they should be banned from said mpuk servers, but to ban them from all mpuk and mpuk associated lans seem unncessesary. Possibly just ban them from tounraments and/or a 4 lan ban / 6 month ban from lans. Certainly when they are at lans you can see if they are cheating or not. It just seems a little OTT to ban them from channels and lans imo, and at the end of the day its trade mpuk is missing out on. Do mpuk have a specific cheat policy, and what to do with caught cheaters? (obviously this will be different for admins). Like i said i didnt know the full circumstances to the situation, so im sorry if ive screwed up in any way.

/me awaits flaming.

[HeRbaLisT]

Originally posted by Mi3Z
Well first off the frist part of this post, imo isnt necessary, and im sure mpuk dont appoint admins with cheat historys.

Il probably get flamed for this part and im not totally aware of the circumstances but hell its a forum. You banned both Mudblud and TiZon straight away, from all mpuk associated lans, and channels. Now this to me, seems a little harsh. Ok i think they should be banned from said mpuk servers, but to ban them from all mpuk and mpuk associated lans seem unncessesary. Possibly just ban them from tounraments and/or a 4 lan ban / 6 month ban from lans. Certainly when they are at lans you can see if they are cheating or not. It just seems a little OTT to ban them from channels and lans imo, and at the end of the day its trade mpuk is missing out on. Do mpuk have a specific cheat policy, and what to do with caught cheaters? (obviously this will be different for admins). Like i said i didnt know the full circumstances to the situation, so im sorry if ive screwed up in any way.

/me awaits flaming.

they apointed TiZoN as admin, TiZoN HAS a cheat history........nuff said

[PurplePants]

(obviously this will be different for admins)
It should much more draconian for admins since they've abused peoples trust. Just like a bent copper.
Certainly when they are at lans you can see if they are cheating or not
Not if they're playing on their own PC. Regardless of which, they've screwed up the scene for everyone else, so why should you give a toss about them? Don't you think that, having stabbed MPUK in the back, MPUK could be forgiven for not wanting anything at all to do with the cheaters?

As for trade... if losing 2 peeps is gonna break the bank y'all might as well jump ship right now...

I was on some strange server last night having hilarious fun with a bunch of peeps, some of which I knew but most I didn't. A cheat joined and basically ****ed the game for everyone, as they do. I did the usual thing and popped up in the admins IRC channel to let them know so they could kick him, but no-one was there so he got to **** our next few games as well. Did I have fun with him on there? ********, did I. I assume this is a one-off thing, because if it happens again I won't be going back to that server and neither will the peeps I played with.

That's what will lose GISP's like MPUK trade. If MPUK get a reputation for allowing known cheats to play it's not going to do them a lot of good. Turfing out cheats is going to attract people that want to have cheat-free fun on servers.

[Cheez]

I can understand MPUK getting upset by it and banning both him and Mudblud, for them this is business and Tiz and Mudblud could lose MPUK money. A ban was to be expected to be honest. But why purple pants, are you getting worked up over a computer game? Please sort your priorities out.

[Azazel]

they apointed TiZoN as admin, TiZoN HAS a cheat history........nuff said
Yes I knew Tizons history but I gave him a chance as an admin.
The work he has done (until he did what he did) as an admin has been nothing short of outstanding, this included keeping an eye on the servers and booting out cheaters quicker than anyone else.

For example, if you read Purplepants "fun" :( game last night.
If that had been an MPUK server a month ago and he came in and asked for an admin .. 9 times out of 10 it would have been Tizon sorting it before anyone else.

That's what will lose GISP's like MPUK trade. If MPUK get a reputation for allowing known cheats to play it's not going to do them a lot of good. Turfing out cheats is going to attract people that want to have cheat-free fun on servers.
I agree allowing cheats does no one any good.
You could say we gave Tizon a second chance and well .. he blew it.
Whether he did what he did out of good intentions doesn't matter now, he has 2 "strikes" against his "record" and people are unlikley now to give him the benefit of the doubt.

We did give Tizon a chance and it didn't work out.
I would say though out of all the GISPs we have the strongest active anti-cheat stance of them all. By that I mean we actively keep our servers protected, we actively watch them and we always stay updated.

We've resolved our blip in this now, Tizon has been removed as an admin and is no longer associated with Multiplay.
If anyone still has a problem could I ask that its aimed at Tizon and not Multiplay.

[TiZoN]

idd Az ... some people are aiming it all at MPUK as a whole when in essence it has nothing to do with them ... MPUK arent Me and I aint MPUK ....

It was my actions and mis givings that lead to this not MPUKs so... really wen people aim shots at MPUK THey know nothing in all honesty...as for thee people saying TiZ this and History and MPUK taht they are in possesion of about 10% of the facts and think they know it all... wen indeed they know **** all :)

Flame me but not MPUK - I dont care if U wana or not as ive had it all before... say I wanted MPUK Cracked to cheat on there servers - would pose no purpose been a admin I knew how fast it copuld be stopped and wouldnt pose of any use really.. it was done as I was working on summit else ... but Ya know it didnt go as planned. Nice to see a Idea I was working on is used in MMC v120 (Note nothing to do with me).
U can find me in my normal rooms under my Normal Name - I aint some coward or wim thats gona go change his IP or Name or fuk all to aviod problems... why suld I ? I mean after all if U have a problem with me then dont come to a room im in... or simply dont speak to me and no more issues will arise will they :)

*To Az* Id still like to talk properly to u m8 .... but ull have to come to me. As I wana distance myself from MPUK in all areas including there channels :)

[PurplePants]

But why purple pants, are you getting worked up over a computer game?
For the same reason most other people are in these forums and hanging out on servers - I enjoy playing the game. Just because it's not a central part of my life doesn't mean I don't have firm views about things or can't get pissed off when someone stops me from enjoying my games.

Why don't you ask the cheats why they make the effort to spoil my enjoyment? After all, that makes even less sense, no?

Seems to me that the other side of your question is just to say, "Well, it's no fun with cheats and it's only a game so I won't play it." Do that with everything that isn't the be-all and end-all of your life and you might as well not live.

Don't you think, perhaps, that you're making incorrect assumptions about me based on zero knowledge?

[MøHåWk]

I was on some strange server last night having hilarious fun with a bunch of peeps, some of which I knew but most I didn't. A cheat joined and basically ****ed the game for everyone, as they do. I did the usual thing and popped up in the admins IRC channel to let them know so they could kick him, but no-one was there so he got to **** our next few games as well. Did I have fun with him on there? ********, did I. I assume this is a one-off thing, because if it happens again I won't be going back to that server and neither will the peeps I played with.

That's what will lose GISP's like MPUK trade. If MPUK get a reputation for allowing known cheats to play it's not going to do them a lot of good. Turfing out cheats is going to attract people that want to have cheat-free fun on servers. [/B][/QUOTE]

I usually play on another GISP's servers and when i go to their channels when there is a bot on their servers 9 times out of 10 no admin will respond or it takes them longer to appear @ server then for the cheat to leave again.
MPUK doesnt allow cheats on servers but sometimes there arent admins about....i;m not a public server admin...thats a shame tho as im online every evening.

[Azazel]

pm me next time you're online Mohawk :)

[Sandino]

pimp :p:

[HeRbaLisT]

Originally posted by TiZoN
idd Az ... some people are aiming it all at MPUK as a whole when in essence it has nothing to do with them ... MPUK arent Me and I aint MPUK ....

It was my actions and mis givings that lead to this not MPUKs so... really wen people aim shots at MPUK THey know nothing in all honesty...as for thee people saying TiZ this and History and MPUK taht they are in possesion of about 10% of the facts and think they know it all... wen indeed they know **** all :)

Flame me but not MPUK - I dont care if U wana or not as ive had it all before... say I wanted MPUK Cracked to cheat on there servers - would pose no purpose been a admin I knew how fast it copuld be stopped and wouldnt pose of any use really.. it was done as I was working on summit else ... but Ya know it didnt go as planned. Nice to see a Idea I was working on is used in MMC v120 (Note nothing to do with me).
U can find me in my normal rooms under my Normal Name - I aint some coward or wim thats gona go change his IP or Name or fuk all to aviod problems... why suld I ? I mean after all if U have a problem with me then dont come to a room im in... or simply dont speak to me and no more issues will arise will they :)

*To Az* Id still like to talk properly to u m8 .... but ull have to come to me. As I wana distance myself from MPUK in all areas including there channels :)

Firstly, thats all i have seen u put "dont blame MPUK, its nothin to do with them" blablabla no one is blaming them...even tho it is thier fault for takin u on in the first place and givin ANOTHER lamer ANOTHER chance. But nevermind, as we have seen o so many times, a cock is givin a second chance and always blows it. Its enevitable, a dead cert, as predictable as the sun risin in the mornin and a cow going mooooooooooo! :P but nevermind that TiZon this is about you. This is about you always laming and drifting from side to side, aint it about time u decided wtf u are ?

u post on forums all the time about cheats helpin people catch cheats ect and then in the next breath ur postin on other lame forums telling people how to cheat/helping them cheat and even enquiring about cheats u cant get to work urself, u hang around in lamers iRC channels on a different networks. So what is it you are exactly trying to acomplish with these actions ? coz tbfh i cant see how doing this would help the community in any way and commisioning that hack with no authority, well that just baffles me :? u are really bad at it coz u keep getting caught lol.

As for your current UT career its a ****in joke and i cant believe Un]-[oly lets u stay in KR, but then again we all know he aint exactly the most anti cheating player going :rolleyes:

as for thee people saying TiZ this and History and MPUK taht they are in possesion of about 10% of the facts and think they know it all... wen indeed they know **** all

10% of the facts ? we all know 100% CyBeRKiLLeR that you were laming under that name well into the anti cheat scene and even s34k3r, master lam0r himself exposed u but o yea that was another "little project" you were working on, my mistake :o

imo u should be banned from CB for good along with the rest of the cheatin ****wits who play in clan wars nowadays. In fact i dont know why any of us bother to play fair anymore we mayaswell all just go and dl bots, at least then it would be a fair fight. I migth just go and do that now and hey iff i get caught at least ill get a second third fourth chance ? :)

TiZoN :chainsaw:

[TiZoN]

:asthanos:

Ill do what I want and go where I please ...... U prob never had a real talk to a cheater and a coder ... and U think they are trash cause of what they do... that may as well be the case... but tbh that ur opinion :)
They are actually ok people to get on with people.... but U wouldnt see that due to the nature of who U see them as.... tbh I couldnt give a ****,,,, im always gona be followed... in good or bad... so if I go talking to em so **** I dont care what U or anyone thinks if that makes me seems bad than so be it.
As for my clan life I have NEVER been caught cheatin .... I never NEVER will be and I NEVER intend to be caught cause they wont be a reason to as I dont cheat :) Least I aint some pathetic n00b who goes and hides under a new name and auth ....

Just accept I aint going no where ....

:asthanos:

[HeRbaLisT]

idd

[ChicXulub]

Tizon, I wish I still had a copy of those IRC log files where I was talking to you in PM and you were telling me that you did occasionally use a bot on public servers so that you could infiltrate the other side and find out more about the people who wrote them and used them.

As Herbalist said before, I really don't know what it is that you are trying to achieve now but you might as well not bother: You are the laughing stock of the UT community and I would be very surprised if anyone took you seriously again.

Oh yeah, and I still haven't forgotten the way you turned very nasty on me when you thought that you had caught me using a bot, you c*nt. It's always good to see someone like you get his come-uppance. :D

[HeRbaLisT]

Originally posted by ChicXulub
Tizon, I wish I still had a copy of those IRC log files where I was talking to you in PM and you were telling me that you did occasionally use a bot on public servers so that you could infiltrate the other side and find out more about the people who wrote them and used them.

As Herbalist said before, I really don't know what it is that you are trying to achieve now but you might as well not bother: You are the laughing stock of the UT community and I would be very surprised if anyone took you seriously again.

Oh yeah, and I still haven't forgotten the way you turned very nasty on me when you thought that you had caught me using a bot, you c*nt. It's always good to see someone like you get his come-uppance. :D

he aint had his come-uppance tho has he thats the point, he goes around lamin and helpin cheaters ect and he carries on with his CB clan playin offi wars ect and TiZoN u make me ****in laugh

U prob never had a real talk to a cheater and a coder ... and U think they are trash cause of what they do...

well duhh ?



Least I aint some pathetic n00b who goes and hides under a new name and auth ....

ok, lol KR|RaMpanT was it ? or something like that lmfao

and for the record u are a pathetic n00b coz u love cheaters and prolly are one, just coz u aint been caught dont mean u aint a cheat u cock all we have is your word and thats worth about 0 :)



Tizon, I wish I still had a copy of those IRC log files where I was talking to you in PM and you were telling me that you did occasionally use a bot on public servers

0wned ?



so that you could infiltrate the other side and find out more about the people who wrote them and used them.

lmfao columbo, and u dont need to use a bot on pubs to "infiltrate" da dark side lol





You are the laughing stock of the UT community and I would be very surprised if anyone took you seriously again.

amen to that :P btw they ever did take him seriously ? :rolleyes:

[TiZoN]

Does it look like Im bothered by what some people say

:asthanos:

[HeRbaLisT]

Originally posted by TiZoN
Does it look like Im bothered by what some people say

:asthanos:

nope not atm, but hopefull people will start buggin u day and night givin u **** on server refusing to play wars u play ect ect ofcoruse this wont happen bt would be cool iff it did !

y dont u fo now TiZoN and go and work on one of your "projects" LMFAO n00b :smiliewar 0wned !

[PurplePants]

refusing to play wars u play
Like we did the other day :)

[MøHåWk]

Well Tizon i gave you 1 chance....as i told in the 1st thread about you....but now this is the 2nd time and well you dissapointed me tbh.But i guess thats the internet....you can be whoever you want to be.
Nice to see you backing out of MPUK....so i dont have to be in much channels in as you are and thnx for the ban in #Kombat
I apreciate it :D
Good luck with whatever "project" you're gonna get busy with in the future....
:madhatter

[TiZoN]

Uhmm Ban ? prob a IP Matching Ban .... or something cause I didnt manually do it that I remember of

:asthanos:

[HeRbaLisT]

rofl even mohawk ur no1 fan has turned his back on u lam0r

and nice1 pp hopefully other clans will follow suite:D

[MøHåWk]

Originally posted by HeRbaLisT
rofl even mohawk ur no1 fan has turned his back on u lam0r

and nice1 pp hopefully other clans will follow suite:D

I wasnt his nr.1 fan and i turned his back on him due 2 a earlier fight. So this is just a little bonus for me.
You really do believe as PP does that i support/like cheaters dont you. Perhaps im a bit more HUMANLY then you guys by trying to give peeps a 2nd chance.
This time it mightve turned out bad....that can happen.
All you do is judge...judge and judge....you really live in the wrong time.
You suldve been born about 400 years ago when all people only judged without asking.

:madhatter

[Limi]

This is getting slightly out of hand now, closed.