The Iraqometer

[KermitTheFrag]

A chilling reminder of the war statistics:

http://www.iraqometer.com/

[Triprotic-Acid]

very :/

[MONK]

Only 6K civilian casualties for a whole country.... really did improve this time didn't they. Thats about 50 - 60% cut in the number and this time they invaded the country outright.

Considering they have had soldiers hiding among civies that is really surprissing it is not much much higher. It appears they will change the way they do things if enough people complain about it.

[TE-Hellfire]

Iraqis free from tyranny: 25,000,000+

[Say_Ten]

So they keep telling us...

[Zenith]

25mill Iraqis are not free from tyranny.
They've just had a dictator swapped for an invading force. Not much of an improvement really.

Where did the 25mill figure come from? The Govt? The MoD? Has it been double corroborated? :p:

[Dwarf_Pr0n]

Hey who cares, he's out of power.
Oh and we have plenty of oil wells :)

[Freelance]

it's not about the oil

http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/images/war.143.gif (http://www.mnftiu.cc/)
take a look around

[Noodleman]

lol,

hey, they still control a little bit in the top right corner. ^_^

[Afty]

The oil is not necessarily the single largest factor, but it is a huge one.

What was the primary objective for US ground forces in Southern Iraq in the first days of the war? Securing oil wells... they bypassed towns and went straight to wells.

Furthermore, the 6k dead needs about 10k troops added to it... those troops were citizens, most of them conscripts forced to fight, or brainwashed (as both sides do) into believing the enemy was an evil invasion force (history may yet show that to be correct).

The real driving force behind all of this is that America wants strategic superiority in areas of the world that have countries with societies or policies that are not easily exploitable and controllable.

Iran for example is now completely surrounded by over 200 000 american combat personnel... The actions in Afghanistan also gave the US long term use of a series of airbases for power projection purposes that are usefully close to China - one of the few remaining military threats to American hegemony.

While Bush may be utterly stupid, the people pulling the strings are not. Their actions may make the world a darker place overall, but for the american powermongers, the world is more pacified and controlled and the US has further dominance.

I really wish that people would stop pretending that the Americans are doing this out of some humanitarian duty... if that was so they would be in a dozen other smaller, less oil rich countries around the world right now, that they won't actually enter until the media makes them send a peacekeeping force of about 500 untrained people.

[Afty]

Originally posted by Noodleman
lol,

hey, they still control a little bit in the top right corner. ^_^

"They" "control" a little bit... not exactly - the maps author is very clever to notice those regions though, which are close to Kurdish and Iranian territories, where centralised control has never worked, and outside forces provoke unrest

[ezt]

a 'nice' page for stats has been http://www.iraqbodycount.net/ and it appears to still be updated.