View Full Version : WTF Is the music industry doing now!?
Noodleman
13th May 2003, 16:52
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3019681.stm
Check out the news article.
aparently your not allowed to write down song lyrics (basicly what it says)
Whats next, not allowed to sing along to a song?!
Chicane
13th May 2003, 17:03
if u sing a song u must pay royalty money
i have a paypal account setup, if u feel the urge send me £1 per song u sing out loud.
bonus offer:
£5 for a week of singing
pm me for details
all monies are *transferred* to relative organizations
Bowser
13th May 2003, 17:07
Err it just goes to show what money hungry, greedy gits they are.
Cheez
13th May 2003, 17:32
It's no different to photocopying a book and giving it to people. You wouldn't do that would you?
BatWick
13th May 2003, 17:46
Originally posted by Cheez
It's no different to photocopying a book and giving it to people. You wouldn't do that would you?
poor analogy, mp3s are more an analogy of that in a way.
Prehaps a better one is a fanletter from a series like Dr Wh0 - looking at the series and what it all mean - lyrics sites always hav discussion board as well and are run by music lovers, whose CD colelctions will be much larger than most peoples. Also the peopel who search for lyrics are into music as well, i mean they are searching for lyrics! their CD collections will be a lot bigger than most people's. Finding lyrics encourages them to listen to their music more and buy more of it.
Basiclly this is going to make people buy less music by making them less enthralled by it. Its a dumb idea. I'd hardly say reading the words is a substitute for music. Unless you are deaf. In fact the two are more likely to go together - fansites, rumours, and song lyrics from artists make me more encouraged to buy their stuff, well if i liek the artist anyway. Anothe case of the music inductry trying to commit suicide in the most spectacular way possible
GeeDee
13th May 2003, 20:13
Many of the current actions of the music industry at present (and in particular the riaa) seem totally laughable to me. I can't understand their thinking. Such as the riaa attempting legal battles with every single file trading app that surfaces, the stories you hear of college rooms in the states being raided by police because 'some kind of file sharing' had gone on.
What the music industry needs to realise is that many people are not prepared to put up with the way music is sold any more. The pittance that artists get, but the stupid prices that CDs are sold for at the moment shows just how much the record labels take. If the industry just woke up and realised that many people are prepared to pay for their music, but they want a system that is both fair and not too restrictive in the way some of the 'secure' digital music formats have been but doesn't cost the earth. Evidence of this can be seen in the growing popularity of apple's online music services.
And now going after lyric sites? What are they trying to prove? I very much doubt that people singing along to their favourite songs, or even covering them with their own bands is going to cause a huge dent in the industry's pockets! I do technical work regularly with a youth project locally which gives young people who can play rock music instruments the chance to get together with tutors and other young people and put on a concert in the evening. And yes, they do play their favourite songs and yes, we do get a lot of lyrics and guitar / bass tabs etc off the net for them at the time. I really don't see why the industry is trying to clamp down on these kind of actions - and I hope that they eventually start to see sense.
:)
Giles.
Blood Sport
13th May 2003, 22:59
they should have never taken napster to court all this done was advertise the fact, you could download any song you like for free
it open up the idea of downloading music for free to the main stream public ----
yup - the riaa/music industry has handled the mp3 thing so badly it is almost laughable. They knew what was going on with Napster but instead of turning it into some kind of profit making business venture (kinda like i-tunes) they just stopped at attempting to shut it down.
There are a few groups that understand the whole mp3 thing and that it can actually be good for their record sales; others just shun the thing off.
The more heavy handed the riaa take it the more it's going to be "them vs us" and the 'worse' the situation is going to get.
Say_Ten
14th May 2003, 08:48
GeeDee you might be interested in this then http://www.musiclovers.ukart.com/ as the UK government are trying to screw you over too.
Space Cowboy
14th May 2003, 11:25
It's incredibly stupid to come after lyric websites.
Music has always built upon previous art, and expanded upon. Almost every art does.
It's like taking an author to court because his book contains Shakesperian themes.
IMO, copyright times should be a LOT shorter (10 years instead of the 70 odd we have at the moment. Maybe less.)
Noodleman
14th May 2003, 11:57
going by their logic..
Anyone who quote's me on this forum.. is in ****! :)
See you in court... lol
I mean cmon. 's stupid :-p
GeeDee
14th May 2003, 12:08
I remember seeing an article on that on BBCi (I think) Say_ten. It's totally and utterly ridiculous and I really hope that it's just the govt flexing it's muscles, and that this kind of law never gets passed.
The notion of trying to stop people from playing music they like under the guise of copyright protection and 'protection to the artists' is totally nonsencical and utterly laughable. I can see where the current situation of requiring professional outfits playing to large audiences to obtain licenses comes from, but to have the possibility of the law coming down on you for doing a pub karaoke, amateur dramatics show or school play without having gone through licensing procedures is totally and utterly ridiculous.
I have done a huge amount of work in theatre, both amateur and professional; and I can tell you that we often use popular songs that have been copyrighted. Are we seriously going to be taking money ouf of the pockets of the artists or even the money grabbing labels? No is the answer.
I have tried and utterly fail to see where the thinking behind this kind of law comes from, as I can't see who's interests it protects at all.
You can't stop people from playing music and performing, it's something that has been in human culture forever - and trying to clamp down on small groups of people doing this is only going to cause the govt very major problems.
:)
Giles.
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