Disk Fragmentation Agro

[Sainteh]

Dudes, I've been moving lots of files all the time and downloading lots recently and i havn't been paying much attention to my hdd. I thought i'd check it on it, and its got a nice juicy 91% file fragmentation :D

Anyways, i clubbed out the ol' drefragmenter and started it going, cept when I came back the thing was still at like 90% fragmentation. I thought, okies, i'll remove some files, move some to the other hdd and now I got 46% free space on that hdd. And i've restarted a few times an stuff and tried it a few times more and its only 87% now, so it sux. Any ideas on what ta do to get this mofo down?
Its not a huge prob really as all the hdd holds is films and a few program installers.
ta,


-saint

(analysis report)

Volume DOWNLOADS (F:):
Volume size = 38,154 MB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 22,204 MB
Free space = 15,949 MB
Percent free space = 41 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 43 %
File fragmentation = 87 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 1,574
Average file size = 17,331 KB
Total fragmented files = 34
Total excess fragments = 24,392
Average fragments per file = 16.49

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 0 bytes
Total fragments = 0

Directory fragmentation
Total directories = 82
Fragmented directories = 1
Excess directory fragments = 15

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 24,179 KB
MFT record count = 2,145
Percent MFT in use = 8 %
Total MFT fragments = 3


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[Blood Sport]

how long did you leave it

[Diplo]

As Blood says, How long it can take hours being that fragged

And if it's Win98 not sure with other OS's it resets itself everynow and then and works it's way through again

[Sainteh]

oh... its win2k pro,
and what u mean how long did i leave it ?!
i full defragd it about 5 times today!
i ain't no simple pe0n.

[Mavykins]

My Defrags normally take bloody ages, last one was around 7 hours, But one thing u could try is scan disking it first, even though sometimes it wont let u defrag entill u have scandisked :P

[Blood Sport]

once i left mine on over night and i woke to find it still going

so it can take some time depending on the OS and processor and ram speed/amount

[RocketKnight]

Mine has been going since 4pm now in preparation for StratLAN and it only just hit 45%, a good 8 hours later. Sadly I hadn't defragged it since July last year so its in a pretty bad way. :(

I find that using Norton Speed Disk is much faster than the one that comes with Windows, perhaps that will help.

[Jobabob]

Just convert your hard disk into a non-contiguous format, then you get no fragmentaion (to speak).

Failing this, install unix.

[KermitTheFrag]

doesnt work. Most UNIX FS's apart from UFS2 and ReiserFS suffer bad fragmentation too. Linux ext2 is pure evil.

NTFS fragments in any mode badly as it's block allocation algorithms suck.

Best way is to mount a scratch monkey (another disk), copy off all the data, reformat the original disk, copy stuff back.

Suggestions - set DC++ and Kazaa downloads to their OWN DRIVE as the way they write the files causes huge amounts of fragmentation which is incurable. They trashed the leech server at work - it spent a good hour thrashing copying one mp3!!!

[Jobabob]

I use NTFS, but I do have 3 physical drives. Ive never had a problem with fragmentation though, am I lucky or do I just not leave it until it gets this bad?

[Bootz]

on this topic, the past few days ive defragged my 80gig which has 70gig filled. It doesn't take very long tho, it used to take ages. But afterwards i reanalyze it and says i should defrag, so i defrag again...and again. I know its good to do it more than once, but it doesnt seem to be improving it. It only seems to take 10-15 mins, just wondering if its actually working ok.

There any defrag proggies i could try?

[Darkblane]

Doesn't Norton Systemworks 2003 include a disk defragger (can't remember what the utilities called) ....

.... and didn't everyone at the last Dreamlan install Norton Systemworks 2003 after Eskimo spread a nice little virus around :)

[RocketKnight]

There any defrag proggies i could try?
Doesn't Norton Systemworks 2003 include a disk defragger
Norton Speed Disk.

[Boffykins]

Diskeeper is the best, imo. You can set it to do frag guard, and defrag basically on-the-fly. IMMED after a format and reinstall of Windows, you should install Diskeeper and never have Fragmentation woes again!

[Noodleman]

/me strokes my server with background defrag running

[Sainteh]

ta for teh help,
i'm gonna go hunt dem progs down.
This is my kinda downloads hdd, i just use it for my kazaa shared folder + storing films/images/mp3's etc.
Needless to say i'm constantly shuffling files about on it all the time. But ah well, i got enuff cds + space on my other hdd's to just backup and clean it out.

-saint

[KermitTheFrag]

Originally posted by Boffy
Diskeeper is the best, imo. You can set it to do frag guard, and defrag basically on-the-fly. IMMED after a format and reinstall of Windows, you should install Diskeeper and never have Fragmentation woes again!

Diskeeper (off the shelf) is the same as what is bundled with windows - just a later version.

[Blind]

Perfectdisk is what i use. Works for me :)

If you can swap to ntfs as although it fragmnets abdly you can still use comp while defraggin. FAT restarts on every disk write.