The 8th of March

[Steadders]

Just another day?

Think again... (http://www.8march2003.com)

[Endor]

All i can say is Bull****!

But that is my own opinion

[Say_Ten]

Bugger, they found out, I turn 24 :)

[Catachan]

HAH! Right so government agencies watch what people type into search engines.

So when I look for "How to make a terrorist bomb", shouldn't I get a knock on the door?

Oh gee, it didn't happen, HOW COINCIDENTAL! </sarcasm>

[Steadders]

Catachan, funny you should say that because there are fake bomb web sites out there, set up to purposely try to trap people into trying to get bomb information, you can get in a bit of trouble for it too...

[GeeDee]

lol.

How many of these sorts of site are there? Too many!

After a few minutes the cursor suddenly started moving by itself, followed by a 'whirring' noise from the hard-disk. I froze with anticipation and by the time I thought to unplug the phone line it had stopped. I had never experienced anything like this before, but I'd been told by a friend that if the cursor ever moved by itself and there was a 'whirring' from the hard-drive, they were the sure signs that indicated someone was hacking into my computer. I picked up the handset to phone my friend. I wanted to tell him what had just happened. My eyes bugged with surprise as I heard a 'clicking' sound. Someone was tapping my phone.

hmmmmm, yes.

/me discards

:)

-GeeDee-

[TimmyNoShoes]

O.k. this could be and in all likelyhood is a hoax, but you have to admit that the very fact this possibly could be true is a scary fact at that. and it was written very well i think!

[WhiteKnight]

Originally posted by Catachan
HAH! Right so government agencies watch what people type into search engines.

So when I look for "How to make a terrorist bomb", shouldn't I get a knock on the door?

Oh gee, it didn't happen, HOW COINCIDENTAL! </sarcasm>

Aaaaaactually, have you seen deep impact ? the whole EVE (extinction level event) thing.

I think this guy was trying to insinuate that key words, like code names for govenment black projects, and particular details for these projects that people should only know if they are part of that project, might be the things that spark off an MIB investigation.

Its all bull sheet.... but i`ve added a outlook meeting for the 8th just to remind me to take the piss :p

[10acious]

i hope on 8th march a pic is posted of a small peice of paper that sais the words ' u r retarded'

clearly its a hoax

im sure if there was a huge cover up that the american goverment would manage to shut down the web site

ho well

in 5 months odd all will be answered

[GeeDee]

Exactly.

In one part of it he says "Everything on the net is scanned centrally" (yeah, of course it is :p: )

Then he says "I am preparing for a mass release via the internet so it can't be stopped".

Anyone else think there's a slight contradiction there?

lol.

:)

-GeeDee-

[Catachan]

I have a new notion now:

The author is a phucktard.

Thank you.

[GeeDee]

seconded.

I'm gonna stop wasting my time on this now.

:)

[Jazza]

I think it's just an experiment.

Maybe I should register www.9march2003.com ;)

[FeAr]

i think it prolly bull$hit, but i cant help feeling anticipation for this now, yeah he kinda goes back on himself, but some of the points he made could happen, some thing you search for are monitord, like some phone calls are and practically everything esle you do in your life

[Darkblane]

I have nothing better to do at work, so I think I'll have to keep checking this, however much nonsense it actually is.

It's just like someone's been watching too much of the sci-fi channel, reading too many conspiracy books, but if it's actually true (somehow I seriously doubt it) it'd be quite funny ...

Maybe on 8th March 2003, "The Blair Witch Project 3: Photos Of The Witch" is gonna be released :)

Or maybe it's a rare photo of Wizzo in a compromising situation!

Anyone wanna email this guy with "vital" clues about the camera and the images hehehe ....

[FeAr]

it could be Half-Life 2 ??? :D:D afterall, in the game the government didnt want anything to spread. Half-Life 2, how cool would that be! im still in love with half-life after all thses years!

:P

[Noodleman]

is it me, or is that a real overkill to the opening paragraph of a porn site lol

[Eskimo]

i would like to belive it but its so been done before.

but the proof of the pudding will be on 8th of march i guess :rolleyes:


oh yea sounds like a cross between, Men In Black and Enemy Of the State if you ask me. Could well be Enemy of the State 2.....

[WhiteKnight]

Originally posted by Darkblane
Or maybe it's a rare photo of Wizzo in a compromising situation!
Rare ? :D

[Cabe]

matrix reloaded?

[Eskimo]

anyone cross refernced for planed movie release dates for that time? maybe in the USA?

check for the same week not just that day. might come up with something interresting.

[Jazza]

Matrix Reloaded May 2003

Matrix Revoliutions November 2003

Although, it could be another film...


Originally posted by Eskimo
anyone cross refernced for planed movie release dates for that time? maybe in the USA?

check for the same week not just that day. might come up with something interresting.

[TE-Hellfire]

Ok well it's fairly obvious that the discovery isn't anything to get excited about.

But it's interesting as to what it is gonna be about, a great way of advertising something to the gullible conspiracy lovers in the US.

[DJ Hatred]

looks quite interesting, can only hope it really is something to get excited about.

[Triprotic-Acid]

well the whois didn't bring up anything interesting (it normaly does gives it away when it's a film or a game)

I'm very sceptical about how real this guys claims are.

Although i am very interested to find out what he has on those pics :)

[Triprotic-Acid]

also on the Matrix thing.....

don't forget the Animatrix!!!

[Mouce]

Originally posted by GeeDee
Exactly.

In one part of it he says "Everything on the net is scanned centrally" (yeah, of course it is :p: )

Well, not centralised as such but 2 sites, everything that has certain keywords is logged. I dont know if they are read or not, but they are logged, including your phone conversations... scary innit. One site is in the UK and the second is in New Zeland. These sites have existed since the mid 50's and never have been shut down, reports of the site stopped after the 70's but, nothing is there to suggest that it's not running.

Yes, they do know what you've been looking at on the web, and yes, they do know who you are.

The reasons why they dont search for each person is due to the fact that it takes a lot of man power to check all of the logs, so, a suggestion would be to priorotise things by events. Look at google, its a brilliant algorithm, and the goverment is bound to employ people that could do even better. At the end of the day, we dont acctually know what the hell is going on, until the time comes, I think its best to treat it with suspicion. If he releases the photos, then we'd know if it was a hoax or not. The goverment will shut down the site/kill him before he manages to do it or when he does it. If he's telling the truth, then he'd probably have very little/not enough to be shot/jailed for life. So the goverment are probably ignoring it.

Even if the photos are real, there is no gurantee of this, with the current facking techniques, it is possible to do anything, thus, he might be buying time just to create these photos.

Basically, wait and see.....

[Bob^^]

'Echelon' is the system you are referring to, its a project designed to monitor communication in any electronic form via a multi-pass scan type thingy, i see to remeber reading somewhere.

Anyway, a quick search should ensure FBI arrival in moments ;)

[Mouce]

I dont know to what extent the following picture is correct, I doubt its complete info as that would be a international security issue.

http://www.ccc.de/~andy/CCC/SIGINT/echelon-folie.jpg

[Iceman]

Sounds like a game or movie promo to me..

Actually, one of my lecturers was talking about it the other day.

[ShadowMan]

anyone here with photgraphic knowledge? anyone with a dark room? what temp does the celulose/celluloid in standard 35mm film boil/evaporate etc? from the look of his photos, the lens portion of the camera has undergone some extreme heat as its bent and twisted and the plastic casing is melted. surely the WHOLE film would have been destroyed?

if it was a game release then surely the best thing would be to say otherwise no one will be ready to buy it. what would you do if someone told you half-life 2 was on sale tomorrow? by giving no warning they will probably reduce sales cos most people would want to see screenshots/demos/movies etc b4 buying.

gotta love how the internet can provide such an easy way to hype something tho. :)

[Uruk-hai]

This exact same topic was posted on another forum that I visit and here is what was said by one person:

"Well the internet is amazing!

In only a few minutes I've found this out....

The site started showing up on Usenet from "two" people on Oct 16. I say "two" because both happen to be posting to a dozen newsgroups related to conspiracies from the same dialup in Melbourne. One is a hotmail account, Jimbo50055@hotmail.com, which is bogus:

rcpt to:
550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable

The other is gintilas@siginysis.com, and siginysis.com is registered with the same registrar (godaddy.com) that 8march2003.com is registered with.

George Gintilas of Melbourne started posting to Usenet about the site on the 16th as himself, and on the same day decided he should post about it from a fake Hotmail account instead. George has never posted to Usenet before from either of the addresses he posted with on the 16th, although he knows about Usenet, having posted there occasionally in '97 and '00. He's a new-ager with a "Radix" consultancy (www.siginysis.com). The language on the site doesn't strike me as American. I'm not sure if there are any Australianisms in it.

My money's on George.

And a bit more - there appears to be 10 damaged negatives in the pic. They're damaged badly enough to not go in an enlarger for printing. 10 out of a max of 36...

The exposed film in an SLR camera is wound onto a spindle, and then wound back into the film canister when the film is completed. Likelyhood of a 1/3 of the film wound onto that spindle melting, leaving 2/3s intact? Look again at pic of back of camera - it's intact. How did it get so hot inside to melt the film, but not the camera back?

Negatives a give away. Section in lower part of pic has a depression in it. Ostensibly, the depression is caused by heating \ melting. It certainly looks like it is. However, in the middle of that depression is the frame boundary. I doubt that a film that had melted that much would develop to give such a clear boundary - in fact I doubt that a film that had melted that much would develop at all.

I sent two email messages to the dope and this is a sumamry of both:

"...I had to pry the back open with a screwdriver as the plastic section of the outer casing had melted then solidified over the cover. .."

If you look at the back of the camera in the photo on the site, the back cover where you put the film is almost untouched and certainly not melted so as to solidify over the cover.

The biggest problem you have is trying to convey too much information. You obviously know nothing about film which gives your "story" away as a work of fiction. The photo of the "negatives" posted on your web site are just that - negatives. Meaning they had already been developed. Undeveloped film coming right out of a camera does not look like the photo you posted. What you did was take negatives from film you developed and torched them a bit. Therefore, since the story about the film is untrue, the rest of your work is nothing but fiction, and a poor work of fiction at that. You need to make something somewhat believable if you plan on selling it commercially. Another problem is your story of being caught almost immediately upon plugging terms in a search engine and having "agents" show up to your residence almost immediately - both physically impossible, as in defying the laws of physics.

So just another nonsense hoax then. Who'd have thought it."

[Darkblane]

How did it get so hot inside to melt the film, but not the camera back?
The aliens did it! with far superior technology!
The photo of the "negatives" posted on your web site are just that - negatives. Meaning they had already been developed. Undeveloped film coming right out of a camera does not look like the photo you posted.
And then the secret govermental agencies went to the site and replaced the pictures with blatant fakes to discredit him. So just another nonsense hoax then. Who'd have thought it."
Everyone :)
I'd still like to know what kinda pictures he's gonna come up with between now and 8th march 2003.

Maybe some like this:

http://apocalypse.luton.ac.uk/george.cairns/ufo/ufomain.jpg

[TelexStar]

AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH

ALIENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kahless]

is it just me or is the site gone?

If you want proof of alien existance, just watch star trek.....

[Zik]

yeah, aliens come to earth all the time and just get lucrative film and TV contracts,
like,DUH! how did u not know that??

as ive said before, i hope by then well have all forgot about it,
and it turns out to be somthing amazing like the secret to eternal life, or the 2nd coming.
and on the 8th of march this man will get all dressed up and wait for the Media to come-a-runnin to his door, Only nobody ever shows up....

that thaught cheers me up somewhat..

[DJ Hatred]

just thought id report the site no longer stands ... :confused:

[Darkblane]

noooo.... the conspirators got to it!!!!

[Steadders]

Originally posted by Jazza2
I think it's just an experiment.

Maybe I should register www.9march2003.com ;)

7th of march has been lol.

i was really looking forword to seeing those pictures :(

[Asterix]

I'm 27 on the 8th march 2003

true?

[Steadders]

It's him! get im!

others:

Say_Ten's birthday (24)
bvark's birthday (25)
GhostDancer's birthday (26)
Asterix's birthday (27)
tezza's birthday (35)
Ben-'s birthday (19)

[10acious]

hmnnnn 3 staff's have bdays on the 8th ?????


clearly the conspiracy is some sort of hideous mpuk drinking bday game

[Elbonio]

my #multiplay log is 1.65MB from the 28th August.


if this system intercepts and records 3 billion communications a day, as is claimed, then how much space would this take up?

I find it difficult to believe that every fax, phonecall, e-mail, txt message is intercepted, scanned and sent on its way... without any other the ISP's or telcoms knowing about it. And if the telcoms did know about it how come they've shut up about it?

there would be too many people knowing...

though admiteddly ECHELON would monitor all communications of any employee with ease if it did exist

if it does exist and they are doing what people claim they are then i'm seriously impressed...

as for that website - it's a load of ********... sorry to say it but there isnt going to be anything of interest up on that site.. maybe some faked/staged photographs along the lines of what he has up already of the camera etc but that's about it...

[Steadders]

but still...

[GeeDee]

Originally posted by Elbonio
I find it difficult to believe that every fax, phonecall, e-mail, txt message is intercepted, scanned and sent on its way... without any other the ISP's or telcoms knowing about it. And if the telcoms did know about it how come they've shut up about it?

I don't think any kind of total monitoring system for the internet could exist at present. For phones, satellite, radio - yes, it would be possible I imagine. But not for the internet; the way it works would make it so hard to do. Sure, it would be possible to monitor particular parts of the internet (search engines; large ISP's maybe) but the whole thing?

Still in the news at the moment was the governments PLAN to achieve something like this. They wanted the right to make it a legal requirement to put their own equipment into ISP's networks (which the ISP incidentally was expected to foot the bill for) to monitor all traffic. That hasn't happened yet.

The only way to monitor internet traffic at the moment would probably be through some kind of advanced packet sniffing technology on major backbones - but even that wouldn't give you all that much usable data.

If the gov't was looking to monitor something specific (an individual's or group of individual's traffic for example) then that probably could be achieved with relative ease; but I don't think they monitor and scan every word looking for particular patterns.

That's how I understand it; anyone care to correct me?

:)

-GeeDee-

[GeeDee]

lol, i just checked the site again and there is confirmation that it was a publicity campaign.

Sorry to disappoint you all.

:)

-GeeDee-

[Endor]

well that was a bollox ending wasnt it? I guess we get on with the rest of our lives now then?

[Cheez]

methinks they couldnt afford the bandwidth :)

[Triprotic-Acid]

he shouldnt have made it so serious :D

his own fault really, i guess he was trying to do copy of the "War Of The Worlds" thing.

[Mouce]

Originally posted by Elbonio
my #multiplay log is 1.65MB from the 28th August.


if this system intercepts and records 3 billion communications a day, as is claimed, then how much space would this take up?

I find it difficult to believe that every fax, phonecall, e-mail, txt message is intercepted, scanned and sent on its way... without any other the ISP's or telcoms knowing about it. And if the telcoms did know about it how come they've shut up about it?

there would be too many people knowing...

though admiteddly ECHELON would monitor all communications of any employee with ease if it did exist

if it does exist and they are doing what people claim they are then i'm seriously impressed...

as for that website - it's a load of ********... sorry to say it but there isnt going to be anything of interest up on that site.. maybe some faked/staged photographs along the lines of what he has up already of the camera etc but that's about it...

ECHELON is very real, your ISP does know and legaly is obliged to have logs of your internet traffic for the past 6 months.

If you look behind todays gadgets, you'd see its acctually quite easy to collect information.

One little example might be this;

At anyone time at least 3 telephone masts have your information if you have a mobile. Based on signal strengths they can calculate the bearing and the distance to where you are, this includes interference from walls etc. They can calculate your distance to anywhere between a sphere of 5-15m radius.

As you should know, each mobile phone has a specific frequency of opperation and a specific code and also that they are based on microwaves. These microwaves are not sent in a specific direction, but in a spherical form.

Now, taking a spy satelite or a mobile company's satelite, since you already have narrowed down their location to 60meters, scan the area for microwave with the specific frequency of that mobile. The signal will be quite weak, difraction etc might also occur, but, you'd have the location down to about 3-10 meters. All you need to do now, is take a couple of snapshots, and smile, you're on a sattelite camera.

Even though Enemy of the State was unrealistic, it had some good features, that did point quite a few things out about how far todays technology is really misunderstood (by public) and exploited (by co-orporations and goverments).

It does make you think though, why is it done, its not for our safety, instead its more likely to breed fear, violance and distrust in a society.

[DeathByDuke]

well, here's my theory (ies) -
The RED DWARF Movie - its slipped from Dec to March

or

Doom ]I[ - its slipped from Dec to March !!!!
or

R350!
or

Unreal2 - its slipped from Dec to March!!!
Conspiracy or what!

[Elbonio]

Originally posted by Mouce
ECHELON is very real, your ISP does know and legaly is obliged to have logs of your internet traffic for the past 6 months.

If you look behind todays gadgets, you'd see its acctually quite easy to collect information.

One little example might be this;

At anyone time at least 3 telephone masts have your information if you have a mobile. Based on signal strengths they can calculate the bearing and the distance to where you are, this includes interference from walls etc. They can calculate your distance to anywhere between a sphere of 5-15m radius.

As you should know, each mobile phone has a specific frequency of opperation and a specific code and also that they are based on microwaves. These microwaves are not sent in a specific direction, but in a spherical form.

Now, taking a spy satelite or a mobile company's satelite, since you already have narrowed down their location to 60meters, scan the area for microwave with the specific frequency of that mobile. The signal will be quite weak, difraction etc might also occur, but, you'd have the location down to about 3-10 meters. All you need to do now, is take a couple of snapshots, and smile, you're on a sattelite camera.

Even though Enemy of the State was unrealistic, it had some good features, that did point quite a few things out about how far todays technology is really misunderstood (by public) and exploited (by co-orporations and goverments).

It does make you think though, why is it done, its not for our safety, instead its more likely to breed fear, violance and distrust in a society.

my point wasnt that it cant be done for a single person my point was that there are 6 billion people in this world - all talking at once and one lots of different mediums - phone, mobile phone, e0mail, IRC, telex, fax, SMS, telegraph, radio.... It would be difficult to monitor it all and even log the ones which have a "potential threat to naitonal security"... not to mention process and act upon it ...

[Mouce]

You're forgeting that they are not 6 billion people online/have mobiles. Most (98%) of the people in the world dont have a home/computer/job/food/money (Scary figure).

Packets themselves are scanned automatically by routers, thus, all you have to do is setup a decent enough packet filtering to do it. You'd have to only scan the first few packets for a transmition, like on looked internet sites etc.

For emails, this would be more complicated, as you'd have to assemble the email, all you do then, is setup sniffer proxys, that scan and drop.

Remember, only priorotised things are stored, probably via a very complex algorithm. If google can make a decent algorithm, then so can the goverment.

Dont underestimate their equipment, they have very clever people working there.

But, at the end of the day, none of this is confirmed, so, you either believe it, or not. I doubt any goverment will tell you how its done. But, I understand that they cannot scan encrypted emails, thus they wanted the master key system in place (defeating the point in encryption in the first place).

[Elbonio]

im pretty sure some kind of monitoring system is set up - certain of it in fact - Echelon spans decades so they're probably pretty much on the ball. However I have read figures saying that Echelon allegedly intercepts 3 billion communications a day...

i think 3 billion communications would be a bit OTT but nevertheless i've heard figures ranging from 500 million to 3 billion knocked about by various sources - this , to me , doesnt seem practicable...

All telephone conversations surely cannot be monitored. The amount of data they would have to store, and the amount of time it would take to filter it - it's just not possible to monitor everything. Tracking phone numbers called probably does happen - and probably legally too i dont know...

I can believe that faxes can, and are, intercepted. Indeed the NSA automatically intercepts, without a warrant, any outgoing faxes with a destination outside the UK at places like Morwenstow and Menwith Hill. They trwal through the data by two methods - they automatically highlight any faxes coming from or going to a destination highlighted as "dodgy" (technical term ;) ). Secondly they electroincally scan faxes. In the old days they used to scan them using the Cray-1 which could read 320 million words per second. intercepting faxes is prefectly plausible.

E-amils are also plausible targets for interception but.. what's the point? a) if someone didnt want something to be found out then surely they'd encrypt it, rendering Echelon with an indecipherable piece of code. Secondly, if they're not clever enough to encrypt it, they'rte hardly going to say stuff like "We'll launch the terrorist attack on tuesday, 9pm" or "Dont forget the A-bomb will you jack". Not to mention all the times these words are used in e-mails quite harmlessly...

I have no doubt we're being watched, I do seriously question just how much - there are limits to how much "they" can physically watch us...

[TE-Hellfire]

You know I may run an experiment between a friend and do all I can to fake the communication process of planning a real terrorist attack and see if I can do it before the men in sunglasses get to me :p:

So let's begin.

I made a bomb last night, anybody up for a trip to London next Saturday?

[Endor]

BOMB BOMB BOMB, BOMBARDIER!

[Endor]

Originally posted by TE-Hellfire
I made a bomb last night, anybody up for a trip to London next Saturday?

Nope cos im off to Newbury!

[Elbonio]

bomb anthrax 9/11 bin laden bush london nuclear attack biological weapons saddam hussian iraq knives IRA kill the queen kill the queen down with monarchy

[Mouce]

Well, a sencible person would look at the URL, then, any other incidents involved with the URL etc, and do a possible damage accesment, thus, on this site, you'd never see the feds. The info would have been logged, analysed by a computer and already probably been discarded. Sorry to piss on your fire

[TE-Hellfire]

Well this is just it, any old Taliban blokey could come on here and have a thread discussing a terrorist plot to launch an attack, yet the feds would fail to get it.

Thus, the information scanning process is ultimately a load of ********. Thank you.

[GeeDee]

Originally posted by Mouce
on this site, you'd never see the feds.

You underestimate MPUK! :p:

"I'm not paranoid. I know they're out to get me"

:)

-GeeDee-

[Steadders]

in fact, some of us are proberly under cover feds, but who could it be?

well it couldnt be me cause...we, it just couldnt. but it could be anyone of you...

[TimmyNoShoes]

Speaking as a person who has been practicing Photography for many years now. i have to say that it is highly possible that the film could have been particialy recovered, because although heat severely damages undeveloped film it is rolled up and the outer film takes the brunt of the heat believe it or not?

[Steadders]

oh great!!

have you seen the site now?

well my life has no meaning any more.

[Noodleman]

lmao

:D

[Steadders]

hey i got an idea, but we gotta keep it hush hush.

lets start are own!!

and see how popular it gets!

[Eskimo]

no lets clone wizzo instead

[Steadders]

no lets eat eggs instead

[TE-Hellfire]

Couldn't agree more Stead.

And while we're at it, I've just got the shipment of anthrax through and the terrorist attack on London is taking place this Saturday 12 Noon. Now COME AND GET SOME SCUMBAG FEDS.

[Cheez]

Great. now youve got MI5 and most likely the FBI reading these forums :rolleyes:

[TimmyNoShoes]

Although i do know photography, i am unable to say exactly about the film as i do not know the temp. that the camera was melted at.

[TimmyNoShoes]

Blooody hell!!
ive only just seen the site again, funny how the site has been removed and they have managed to say why without actually giving any information away at all.
Which gives the supposed feds a chance to make up a plausable reason for the site by march 2003.

[Zik]

Originally posted by Cheez
Great. now youve got MI5 and most likely the FBI reading these forums :rolleyes:

lol, i do hope they come along to i14!

theyd be pretty easy to spot thugh - the ones not shouting 'timmeh' for reasons unkown!

but, should they be reading:
- i have what you want,but my price has doubled.

[Gifted]

/me types "TNT, Terrorists, BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS, MI5 EMPLOYMENT DETAILS, QUEEN's HOLIDAY PLANS'
into google......


JESUS not only did my screen explode but i now being chased by the whole army!!! i typing this from a laptop as my last words......... although i now will die just remember
"8TH SEPTEMBER 2003"
CONSPIRACY THEORY!




goodbye everybody :(





p.s - the fact that the 8th of september just so happens to be my b'day is pure accidental but while your at it please leave all gifts and computer part on my front door as a remorial....... no crap though guys comon!! (i.e - no AMD) :D

[Darkblane]

f00l! if only you'd have typed [fbi ignore this] around your google search [/fbi ignore this] you'd have been safe ...

And you realise that the fbi now know your b/day and will be leaving you parcel bombs disguised as 4Ghz Pentium 5s ...

[Jazza]

Well it's almost 8th March, anyone think this will be a wet fish?


www.8march2003.com

[Jobabob]

Well the disclaimer saying 'THIS IS A WORK OF PURE FICTION' might mean its not true. Still I am hoping itll be a good suprise after 6 months of waiting, it better bloody be :)

[bvark]

ISPs neither have the ability nor the desire to monitor your traffic, in the UK or anywhere else in Europe. If there's traffic monitoring going on, it's not with the connivance of ISPs. The very nature of fiber optic cables (esp. long haul ones) would make it very hard for them to tap those lines, though.
The law about logs of things like webservers & RADIUS servers is also not clear (yet) in England.
The governments of Europe are slowly waking up to the need for lawful intercept (or "internet wiretapping"), but nothing has yet been implemented.

And so many staff with birthdays? I knew the day was win!

[Mingtea]

YES!

the 8th of march is a very very important date.














it's pay day.

[Elspuddy]

you get payed on a sataday ?

[Mingtea]

Oh, i thought it was friday.

Nevermind then :)

[Steadders]

2 days left...

[Boffykins]

Wow. A boat on a mountain. Which isn't a boat. It's a train. How cataclysmic

[Dan]

yeh, :|

[Darkblane]

But now we can look forward to the 15th April 2003 to find out the exact details of the secret location lol :)

hmm and what about www.mountainsub.com .... not run by the same person by any chance ... in an attempt to make the story more interesting .... omg! the "faction" have also created a website rofl.

[TE-Hellfire]

No doubt the first thing they decided to do when making a top secret boat was to keep it clearly visible and write ARC II in big Times New Roman letters across the side.

I'm glad they revealed it was a hoax so long ago because it would have been too hilarious trying to convince the public of those n00b Photoshop sk1llz they got. As usual, they got the lighting wrong.

They're doing a competition tho to guess what its promoting, worth entering.